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Georgian Notes, Doubts and Tips TAC 2013

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zecchino1991
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 Message 689 of 758
06 May 2013 at 6:40pm | IP Logged 
I'm not sure, but I think one might mean "injure" and one means "hurt," as in to cause pain rather than injury.
But I could be totally wrong. How were they translated in Russian?
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 Message 690 of 758
06 May 2013 at 6:52pm | IP Logged 
I think the first is rather "to offend", given the further examples. They were translated as мне обидно and мне больно (I don't want to spoil the fun for you, btw =D).
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 Message 691 of 758
06 May 2013 at 7:11pm | IP Logged 
Ohh, so one is to hurt physically and one is to hurt emotionally? I know mtkiva is for physical pain.
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 Message 692 of 758
07 May 2013 at 6:06pm | IP Logged 
So, i'm done with lesson VII! I could follow the explanations on IV conjugation verbs a bit more closely, and I could review the I and II persons endings (forms such as მიყვარხარ and ვუყვარვარ). I also read about the old -ან form that got replaced in spoken language because it sounded as if they were placing too much emphasis on the real object. So, if I got ir right, they used to say "მიყვარან" for "I love them" but now it's just...მიყვართ??!!

As for EGS, I also finished lesson 27's exercises. No more passives!! Now I'm going for II conjugation verbs, and I hope to find loads of useful vocabulary at that lesson.

I feel like I start to get familiarized with the grammar. I even long for the lessons on Hewitt and Aronson, which covered topics like inversion and perfect screeve extensively! Maybe I'll do some review later, just for consolidating the grammar explanations.
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 Message 693 of 758
07 May 2013 at 6:31pm | IP Logged 
I love them=მიყვარს. You put the თ on the end if the subject is third person plural, not
the object. So for example, "they love him/them"=უყვართ.

It's very confusing!
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 Message 694 of 758
07 May 2013 at 6:37pm | IP Logged 
By the way, check out pg. 335 in Aronson. It's very helpful.
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 Message 695 of 758
07 May 2013 at 10:46pm | IP Logged 
Thanks, it's clear now.

I keep doing my bilingual papiamento-georgian project and it seems my Georgian starts to land off! I'm going directly to the Georgian text. At the first paragraph I read the text previously in Portuguese, but at the second one I felt like starting right away from the Georgian. I understood some words from the context and I looked up a few others. I'm starting to get the hang of the sentence and that's an important step. I remember how it happened for me with German, that has a unique word order which sometimes reminds me of Georgian, and I'm aware of how difficult it still is for Russian, which has cases but they are actually harder than in Georgian.
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 Message 696 of 758
08 May 2013 at 6:09pm | IP Logged 
I just read a great explanation on how the future of III conjugation group verbs is derived from a causative verb. Thanks, Tschenkéli, wherever you are now!


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