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| fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4497 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese | Message 193 of 204 26 October 2012 at 5:42pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I don't think he's ever promissed anything to anyone in terms of languages. He does what he loves. And again, he's never said he was fluent in all of his languages, only 4/5 of them. So he has 4/5 languages at a very good level, let's say other 5/6 at an intermediate level and the rest at a beginner level. He said that sometimes he studied 15/16 hours a day. That's more than you're doing, for sure. Edited by fabriciocarraro on 26 October 2012 at 5:45pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 4912 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 194 of 204 26 October 2012 at 5:44pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
What is he promising? Is he selling a guarantee or something? R. == 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5163 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 195 of 204 26 October 2012 at 5:47pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
My point was that my experience with simultaneous interpretation is that it's a particular mode you are in -- I would personally avoid doing that while I'm being asked a question because it diminishes the attention I give the question. Similarly, if I try to systematically analyze the grammar of every question you ask me, I'll sometimes get too distracted to provide a good answer. And so for an interview on national TV, I'd give it a break. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| justonelanguage Diglot Groupie United States Joined 4244 days ago 98 posts - 128 votes Speaks: English, Spanish | Message 196 of 204 26 October 2012 at 6:25pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I don't doubt that he is dedicated to language study, but the hyperbole doesn't pass muster. Assuming 8 hours for sleep, that leaves 16 hours in the day. I really don't know anybody that can study for 16 hours straight. There is food to eat (yes, and I know that one can study while eating food), showers to be taken, bathroom break, etc, etc.
The most hard-core people (these are type-A, neurotic people) I know study 10 hours a day (we are talking actual studying, measured with a stopwatch and not, "I'm going to the library at 8AM and leaving at 6PM") If he even dedicated 8 hours of real studying/day to languages while out of school, I would be highly impressed. That's 56 hours a week. Most people that work 40 hours/week aren't actually working 40 hours, there are distractions, etc.
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| Midnatt Triglot Newbie Czech Republic Joined 4210 days ago 10 posts - 18 votes Speaks: Slovak, Czech*, English | Message 197 of 204 26 October 2012 at 7:31pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
That's so true. When I was working 12 hour shifts at distilling fatty acids, I wouldn't work all the time. Sometimes we even went from one giant tank to another and it would take most of the time of the shift. That roughly means we were watching movies, reading, talking, drinking coffee. I personally think that if you're forcing yourself to study for long amounts of time, you'll learn nothing. It's better to study 30 minutes to 1 hour a day but regularly. Of course if something turns out to be interesting and a reason to be excited over, you'll end up learning it for hours without knowing. But even if I consider Tim to be the only child with no one to bother him, making the best environment to learn languages for longer time, he still probably couldn't learn for 16 hours straight. But still. The people who want to impress with the quantity usually take several languages at time and rush too much. They will end up knowing nothing such as You-know-who. But if someone really is into languages and shows enough dedication to learn them for literal hours, then I'll applaud to them. Bravo Tim!!! Edited by Midnatt on 26 October 2012 at 7:33pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6485 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 198 of 204 28 October 2012 at 8:47pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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If you only study for one hour a day you won't get anywhere with a dozen or two languages at different levels competing for your time. It is up to debate how long sessions you should take with each language (and it ultimately also depends on your study methods), and languages you all have learnt fairly well take less time, but one hour a day is not much.
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 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6691 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 199 of 204 28 October 2012 at 11:53pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Personally I like to mix consistency with intensity. 30 minutes a day, regularly, is of course better than nothing at all, but whatever you're time period is, it depends a lot on what you're doing (and what you count as "studying").
In the If the Listening-Reading works... thread, Serpent said: "My basic observation is that it's better NOT to "do something every day" if you don't have enough time to really experience flow. For LR or listening/reading separately you need flow, even if it means studying less often (but having longer sessions... and of course there are limits here). "Do something every day" is for lazy unmotivated folks." (page 2) Tim obviously has a lot of hours to spend on his favourite subject (languages, if anyone missed that;)), and probably has an idea what to do during those hours (16 or whatever the number is). I know that I could (easily) throw in (an extra) half-hour of shadowing/L-R/reading in all of my target languages, should I not watch TV/play music/hang out with with friends/spend time on that-dreaded-thing-known-as-the-Internet. One hour a day isn't much, as Iversen says. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| espejismo Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 4833 days ago 498 posts - 905 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Spanish, Greek, Azerbaijani | Message 200 of 204 29 October 2012 at 12:03am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Didn't he say he studies 15 hrs a day when there's no school? Don't exaggerate the hyperbole. ;) Also, some people sleep less than 8 hrs a day for a number of reasons. I slept for like 4-5 hrs many a night when I had to prepare for certain exams when I was Tim's age. Edited by espejismo on 29 October 2012 at 12:07am 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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