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 Message 841 of 1511
04 September 2013 at 12:36pm | IP Logged 
Today I finished up a loose end (a Romanian lesson with a new teacher). However it
might be fairly interesting to continue with her because she is Moldovan (and thus also
speaks Russian). The consequence of this is that the materials we used during this
class fairly often translated from Russian (not from English or French which I am used
to). So once October comes I might consider working with her again, maybe also to
improve that other nemesis of mine, Russian.

One thing that I find VERY interesting about her speech is the way she pronounces
Romanian words MUCH MORE like a Russian would. In Romania, most words are pronounced
very dryly, with consonants very sharp like in Italian. I.e. student sounds like it's
in Italian. In Moldova, the d/e combination palatalises like in Russian. Endings in -ne
(like persoane) sound more like persoan-je like in Russian. Sometimes sentence melody
and intonation is very Russian, not Romanian at all. This is very interesting to me
because it means that if I want to speak with a Moldovan, I can ramp up the ante by
transferring the palatalization from Russian onto Romanian in the right situations -
and it will sound more Moldovan. The h in Moldova also sounds more like Russian /x/
than English /h/ to me.

Which all comes back to the following questions: do Moldovans actually code-switch
between Romanian and Russian? Because I might even try that if I ever go there.

Edited by tarvos on 04 September 2013 at 12:38pm

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 Message 842 of 1511
05 September 2013 at 5:37pm | IP Logged 
Interesting small note on the French language:

I remembered the word "blocus" the other day, and its meaning. It means (at least what
I thought at the time), the period of class-free weeks before exam time that allows
students to study and prepare for them. Or at least, that is what it does in Belgium.

Turns out that in France, it actually means either a blockade during a siege, or an
economical embargo.

That's not entirely the same and I don't see where the blocus in Belgium comes from...

but in my view... it is that period of university when you're dating someone and you
don't get to see her for two weeks because she's shut up in her room with the most
terrible food, bags under her eyes, trying to make sense of that microbiology exam at
3am because she left it late again.

True story...
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 Message 843 of 1511
07 September 2013 at 9:54am | IP Logged 
Since today is my birthday, all language learning presents should be aimed in this
general direction haha...

Little studying today probably.
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 Message 844 of 1511
07 September 2013 at 10:14am | IP Logged 
С днем рождения! Желаю всяческих успехов (особенно в изучении языков, раз уж пишем на этом форуме)!
Я вообще чертовски плоха в во всякого рода поздравлениях, они у меня звучат ненатурально и как-то вымученно... видимо, надо поучиться этому где-нибудь :)
P.S. Written in Russian as a source for a "little studying today", hehe :)
P.P.S. I would've recommend some book as present (подарочный совет, hehe), but since I'm not very fond of Russian literature...
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 Message 845 of 1511
07 September 2013 at 10:26am | IP Logged 
Я мало читаю русскую литературу. Хотя русские поздравляения у меня звучат интересные и
классные, больше чем стандартное <<с днем рождения>>...
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 Message 846 of 1511
07 September 2013 at 12:06pm | IP Logged 
tarvos wrote:
Я мало читаю русскую литературу. Хотя русские поздравления (поздравления
на русском) у меня звучат интересно и классно, лучше, чем стандартное <<с днем
рождения>>...

Звучать is a verb, so it requires an adverb, not an adjective.
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 Message 847 of 1511
09 September 2013 at 9:46am | IP Logged 
Comme j'ai étudié un peu le français aujourd'hui, je viens de partager avec vous un récit
d'un poème connu et célèbre: Le pont Mirabeau de Guillaume Apollinaire.

Ce récit a pour but m'aider avec la prononciation, car en français, je ne tenais pas à
bien prononcer tous les mots et faire les voyelles comme il faut - j'ai tendance à les
réduire (comme est régulier en néerlandais ou en russe).

Donc vous voilà un enregistrement de cette belle pièce:

Le Pont
Mirabeau

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 Message 848 of 1511
09 September 2013 at 2:37pm | IP Logged 
[QUOTE=tarvos] Since today is my birthday, all language learning presents should be aimed in this
general direction haha...

QUOTE]

A little late comes a birthday present from me: Up to a week free room and board whenever you would like to visit Oslo - I gather from what you wrote above that you are having travelling plans in this direction at some point :-)

Belated happy birthday! May you have a long life, rich from language studies, and may you always have the ironic, funny, "no-bullshit taken" attitude you have right now.

Big hug from Cristina


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