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tarvos
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 Message 81 of 1511
07 March 2012 at 2:13am | IP Logged 
The Lazy Bug (it's like a ladybug minus the d and with an extra z) has struck me, and I am thus only now started on TY unit 9. It will be finished tomorrow. Upon which I will spend the rest of the day doing Colloquial unit 7 and then going to class. It should be productive.

I also ordered Assimil's Russian course, which is due somewhere this week or the next - same for my grammar book.

I'm still writing Russian letters on interpals.net, though. Turkmenistanis are weird. That is all.
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 Message 82 of 1511
08 March 2012 at 4:14pm | IP Logged 
The Assimil book came in the mail. It looks absolutely spiffy and amazing. It's got a more pleasant layout than the TY Russian book (which isn't bad, but just not the same).

It sounds like I am going to enjoy this a lot more, because it also has mp3s, so, IPODS. And, base language is English. Which is nice, if you, like me, like English.
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 Message 83 of 1511
09 March 2012 at 3:22pm | IP Logged 
The first two Assimil lessons are going so fast (but this is the start, so I expect to just race through lessons. I'm doing one every day because I am a lazy procrastinating <expletive> like that. I've also checked my Anki rates, and apparently, for mature cards, my reset counter (mature words I don't remember) is very low - not even above a few percent.

98% retained at mature level.
94% or so at young I think
and way above 80% for new. Eh...
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 Message 84 of 1511
10 March 2012 at 2:11am | IP Logged 
WARNING: Detailed log entry about methodology.

I just spent 1.5 hours completely muddling through Colloquial Russian's exercises. The grammar mostly consisted of past tense formation of verbs (this I already knew how to do, but it's good to get some practice with the irregularities and use the reflexives with it). The rest was pretty much conjugating "whose" (which is straightforward - conjugates according to gender of what it's supposed to be agreeing with) and stamping in the instrumental case.

That's now firmly ingrained :) I guess, since my Assimil got added, that Assimil will principally serve as audio input, which I was kind of lacking. TY's audio is horribly irritating to listen to (the accents and background noise put me off). So what I am doing now is the following

Class - speaking and pronunciation practice. The occasional listening as well (my teacher is a native speaker)
Assimil - Audio input and testing my comprehension of the language overall.
TY - Grammar explanations and vocabulary. To be honest, it was nice to get started and it's good for the phrasebooky expressions (what do I do at the train station and what do I tell people) but as a vocab resource it's kind of limited (though I always pick up a few words which then get eliminated elsewhere)
Colloquial - Grammatical exercises, drills, translations (I really love and hate this aspect at the same time - it's boring, but it really reaffirms my grammatical knowledge. This way I will know for sure my grammar makes sense)
Anki - SRS for vocab retention. My progress in using this is really good, but I knew that would be the case since most of a language is vocab acquisition and this is something I've always been good at. I generally have a retention rate above 95% after about 3 weeks.
Ruslan - This is homework material, but it tends to be far too easy at this point. Reinforces some grammar and vocab, I guess? It doesn't hurt.
Interpals.net - Russian writing practice.
Grammar and dictionary (both from Oxford) serve as vocabulary and grammar references.

What I really could do with is a little more audio input, but the only way to solve that is just milk all the dialogues from my materials for what they're worth until I've grinded through all the grammatical basics (which I haven't yet) and get there. I should have done this in a month or 3, 4, though. By summer I think I should be able to write in a moderately A2-B1 fashion. Well I probably managed to get to a decent A1 already, in writing, but whatever.

In short, my progress of the language is coming along nicely (or as my penpal wrote: у тебя большие успехи в изучении русского языка :) )

Edited by tarvos on 11 March 2012 at 12:38am

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 Message 85 of 1511
10 March 2012 at 9:54pm | IP Logged 
Здравствуйте! Я тоже учусь русский (и я тоже на "Спутнике" ;)) и французский языки.

My... active skills in Russian have atrophied quite a bit. :x But whatever. I wish you
good luck in your studying Russian!
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 Message 86 of 1511
11 March 2012 at 12:41am | IP Logged 
Haha, merci! J'ai pas la confiance maintenant à répondre en russe, mais je vois que vous étudiez le français, et donc j'espère que vous pouvez, au moins, comprendre cette réponse.

Merci pour la courage et je vous souhaite aussi une bonne apprentissage de la langue français et russe. (Maintenant, j'appris pas le français, mais il me reste un peu de connaissance de la langue).
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 Message 87 of 1511
11 March 2012 at 7:51am | IP Logged 
lynxrunner wrote:
Здравствуйте! Я тоже учусь русский (и я тоже на "Спутнике" ;)) и
французский языки.

My... active skills in Russian have atrophied quite a bit. :x But whatever. I wish you
good luck in your studying Russian!

учу русский (и я тоже в "Спутнике")
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 Message 88 of 1511
13 March 2012 at 5:30pm | IP Logged 
Leider habe ich mich die letzten zwei Tagen nicht so schwer gearbeitet auf meinen Sprachen - da kam das wirkliche Leben zwischen. Erstmal gab's arbeit fur Universität - ich möchte doch immer gerne noch meine These dieses Jahr schreiben. Ich bin damit jetzt in der erste Stufe - anfangen mit der Forschung, Plänen schreiben, ein Platz finden zum arbeiten usw. Ich weiss dass das eigentlich mehr Priorität bekommen muss, aber ich bin immer nicht so dass ich damit schon alle Zeit, die ich zur Sprachenlernen nutzen kann, verschwunden habe. Zu zweit gab's gesternabend eine Geburtstag wobei ich natürlich nicht fehlen könnte (und auch wollte).

Trotzdem habe ich mich durch die erste Funf Kapitteln von Assimil Russisch gekämpft. Ich schaute mich dass noch immer an wie einfach - es sind alle Sachen der ich schon aus andere Lehrbücher geholt habe, und der ich schon gesehen und verstanden habe. Ich habe ausser das und Anki die letzte paar Tagen schon nicht mehr wie das gearbeitet, aber mein Deadline war einige minuten her passiert und ich kann mich heute Abend wieder konzentrieren auf Russisch. Für Assimil nutze ich das origineles Idee - ich mache jetzt nur die Passive Wave und kümmer mich nicht um aktives lernen (was ich auch anderswo mache).

Ich hoffe heute Abend Zeit frei zu haben um an zu fangen mit Assimil, Kapittel 6 and danach mich zu setzen an Teach Yourself, Unit 10. Trotzdem bin ich doch ein bisschen froh das es darum auch nicht zo viel neue Wörter zu lernen gab, und dass ich mich völlig auf wass ich schon gesehen habe, konzentrieren könnte. Morgen gibt's wieder eine Klasse - aber ich habe morgen, ausser ein kurzes besuch zum Krankenhaus (oder eigentlich, nur mich mit ein Nädel für Blut stechen lassen), nichts zu tun dass richtig meine Andanke erfordert. Ich kann mir dann auch hoffentlich vorbereiten auf ein gute Studietage morgen. Hausaufgaben werde ich auch vorabgehend an die Lektur machen, aber meistens sind die Hausaufgaben stark unter mein Niveau :)



Edited by tarvos on 13 March 2012 at 5:59pm



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