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| laban Triglot Groupie Israel Joined 5616 days ago 87 posts - 96 votes  Speaks: Modern Hebrew*, English, Italian Studies: Norwegian, German | Message 1 of 9 27 January 2012 at 7:10pm | IP Logged |
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I'm actually quite surprised at how much I understand off it, being of specific accent.
But it's still hard for me to fully understand, and surely to translate, yet it's so beautiful that I really wish I could - so please help. (the lyrics might be a bit off, if you can offer corrections it would be awesome) Youtube link Lyrics : Juljeitsan' a' fjella dro mørkt va' om natta di fola - me' kobbsjinnstøvla og jarnsko. Og da' va' dag og ljøs, da di fram kom. Hán pekka på dørra me' fenger'n sin "Å høyr du litataus, læt me' inn". "Nei, ingjen bón'gluint læt e' inn, e' e' ei lita taus *alein". *(opprinnelig: ... så fin?) "E' e' ingjen bón', imøst du tok, e' e' en Kongens sán sá klok". "E' du en Kongens sán sá klok, sá søng en sálm' førutjo bok!". "Nei, ikje kan e' i bokjen sjá, men meire kan e' pá harpa slá." "kan du sá godt pá harpo slá, sá gár e' át dørra á ly' darpá." Resen han snudd' se' dørra ifrá. Hán tørka de táran', sá ingjen sku' sjá. Fór hán sá heim me' sjumilssteg, møtt' hán mor si pá heimeveg. "Kvi gjor' du ikj' sá hán far din klok? Hán me' opigjønno' ljøren tok." "E' ság vel da' sá pá ljøren sto', e' røss i holl nár e' kjem da' i ho' !" Edited by laban on 27 January 2012 at 7:14pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6577 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 2 of 9 27 January 2012 at 8:08pm | IP Logged |
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The lyrics are not correct. There are phrases missing and the spelling is really
eccentric too. Juljeitsån i fjella for. Mørkt va om natta di fola. Med koppskinnstøvla og jernsko. Og der var dag og lys da de fram kom. Han pekka på dørra med fengern sin. Mørkt va om natta di fola. Og hei du tausa slepp me inn. Og der var dag og lys da de fram kom. Nei ingen ?? læt dæ inn. Mørkt va om natta di fola. Eg e' ei lita taus alein. Og der var dag og lys da de fram kom. ... Not gonna do the whole thing cause I can't understand everything anyhow, it won't be accurate. Someone else might give you a different version. Paraphrasing (also not to be trusted too much): Julegeiten til fjells gikk Mørkt var om natta ?? ???? Med koppskinnstøvler og jernsko. Og der var dag og lys da de kom frem. Han pekte på døra med fingeren sin. Mørkt var om natta ?? ???? Og hei du jente slipp meg inn. Og der var dag og lys da de kom frem. Nei ingen ??? lar deg komme inn. Mørkt var om natta ?? ???? Jeg er en liten jente alene. Og der var dag og lys da de kom frem. ... A rough effort, someone will do better. Edited by numerodix on 27 January 2012 at 8:11pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6703 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 3 of 9 27 January 2012 at 11:08pm | IP Logged |
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Great band, lovely song, cool arrangment.
The lyrics which Laban posted happen to be transcribed by the Norwegian composer Fridthjov Anderssen, so probably nothing strange there. Just the odd dialect spelling. No missing lines from what I could note during this first listen. It's common to include the recurring lines ("mørkt va' om natta di fola" and "Og da' va' dag og ljøs/lys, da di fram kom") only once in the written lyrics. Discussion here (in Norwegian): http://ringblomst.no/forum/showthread.php?25351-Folkemusikk- noen-som-kan-tolke-Juljeitsån-sammen-med-meg 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| laban Triglot Groupie Israel Joined 5616 days ago 87 posts - 96 votes Speaks: Modern Hebrew*, English, Italian Studies: Norwegian, German | Message 4 of 9 28 January 2012 at 1:03am | IP Logged |
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Ha...omg, I actually visited this forum before for the same song and totally forgot about
it, anyway thanks Jeff. I remember it seemed quite odd to me to find such a discussion considering the nature of these forums in general :) One more thing, would you happen to know where could I find lyrics for other Folque songs ? if not, would it be possible to ask for transcriptions on this forum? Edited by laban on 28 January 2012 at 1:08am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6703 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 5 of 9 28 January 2012 at 10:57am | IP Logged |
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You have a couple here (rough translations included):
http://lyricstranslate.com/sv/folque-lyrics.html The band's website: http://www.folque.net/ Edited by jeff_lindqvist on 28 January 2012 at 10:59am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| laban Triglot Groupie Israel Joined 5616 days ago 87 posts - 96 votes Speaks: Modern Hebrew*, English, Italian Studies: Norwegian, German | Message 6 of 9 28 January 2012 at 2:49pm | IP Logged |
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Thanks xD, these rough translations and lyrics uploads are all mine :), it would be nice
if you could offer some corrections so I can improve them. I've actually started a thread here asking for that exact thing :) And of course, I know the official site. So, any other help will be much appreciated. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6703 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 7 of 9 28 January 2012 at 5:30pm | IP Logged |
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I don't have active Norwegian, so you would get better comments from native speakers. In "Skjon jomfru" it should be "han skiftede om sine kleder, sine kleder" (kleder=clothes). In "og stak det gjennom sitt liv.", 'liv' means body, trunk, abdomen (it's "Leib" in German, and of course it's closely related to 'Leben' and 'life').
More lyrics here: http://www.lyricsvip.com/Folque-Lyrics.html I can't imagine there's no collection of lyrics, maybe on Norwegian folk music forums, mailing lists etc. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| laban Triglot Groupie Israel Joined 5616 days ago 87 posts - 96 votes Speaks: Modern Hebrew*, English, Italian Studies: Norwegian, German | Message 8 of 9 28 January 2012 at 6:34pm | IP Logged |
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Fixed!
I actually thought these two were somewhat metaphoric. Well, the first one was a typo so I'll leave at that. But the second "og stak det gjennom sitt liv." - is it completely impossible for 'liv' to mean life? I mean, archaically/poetically it could work, and sounds great to me, only question is - could this word actually mean life? from what you wrote I assume it could? About Folque's lyrics, I've scoured the net many hours in several languages to end up empty. All of of what you've shown me so far, including this last site, have lyrics from the first 3 albums which I already have. The lyrics for their following 4 albums are just no where to be found (quite amazing with today's internet). I'm uploading the lyrics and translating them not only because I love Folque, or as a language practice, but because no one else seems to be doing it or even care too much about this band. I hope the work I put into it would better document the band and make it accessible to whoever is interested in the future. And generally, make Norwegian more accessible and improve the internet. So, any additional information, corrections or whatever help you're willing to offer would be great. thanks a lot. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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