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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5166 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 33 of 40 31 October 2013 at 10:48pm | IP Logged |
Fasulye wrote:
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I encourage you to be honest with her and ask directly as if it were nothing important. It's nothing to be
ashamed of, for sure. To me, anyway, it's the same as asking if the person is wearing contact lenses or
needs reading glasses. It's an important part of her life and I doubt she'd be ashamed to discuss it with
you.
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| schoenewaelder Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5345 days ago 759 posts - 1197 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch
| Message 34 of 40 04 November 2013 at 1:36pm | IP Logged |
I'm surprised to hear some people with "real" hearing problems can't understand CDs.
Apparently my hearing is normal, but I always seem to have problems understanding when
conditions aren't optimal, and I find CDs ideal.
Perhaps the problem is, that the bass frequencies are often a bit weak. Have you tried
turning up the bass, or ripping the files and using the "bast boost" or equaliser
effects
in audacity?
Telephones are even more extreme and lose information from both ends of the spectrum (I
believe).
Edit: On the other hand, I do find all the non-speech sounds they sometimes put on CDs
intensely distracting - jingles, background music, sound effects, beeps and tones, etc.
Edited by schoenewaelder on 04 November 2013 at 1:44pm
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5166 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 35 of 40 04 November 2013 at 5:18pm | IP Logged |
schoenewaelder wrote:
Apparently my hearing is normal, but I always seem to have problems understanding when conditions aren't optimal, and I find CDs ideal.
Perhaps the problem is, that the bass frequencies are often a bit weak. Have you tried turning up the bass, or ripping the files and using the "bast boost" or equaliser effects in audacity?
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Obiously, CDs ARE optimal, and the problem has to do with your playback method. My hearing issues are not severe, but I've never identified CDs as the source of any problem.
As for your recommendation to increase the bass, most speech is not affected by bass, and most hearing loss begins in the upper register, so it's usually having too much bass that's a problem, not the other way around (although individual situations differ).
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| schoenewaelder Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5345 days ago 759 posts - 1197 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch
| Message 36 of 40 06 November 2013 at 3:43pm | IP Logged |
I realise my problems aren't the same as people with real hearing problems,
but here is an example of what I'm talking about. The quality of this clip is not the
worst I've heard, but I couldn't find any other examples.
">download clip
The other tracks on this CD were fine, so it's not a general problem with the overall
production but I assume that on this track, the sound recording was poorly set up.
I find the "a" sounds and dipthongs in "ein" "dann" und "aus" rather unpleasant to
hear. It's almost like my ears get hit by the pressure wave from passing traffic, and
my eardrums get jangled. It's not just because the amplitude is too great. I can reduce
that, and it's still unpleasant, but if I use bass boost to correct the audio spectrum,
then it sound a bit nicer. My problem may be my distractability, rather than an actual
hearing problem.
I also thought of another thing that could make language CDs harder to understand for
some people, which is, they still seem to often be spoken in a rather unnatural tone of
voice.
Edited by schoenewaelder on 06 November 2013 at 3:48pm
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| Message 37 of 40 06 November 2013 at 4:12pm | IP Logged |
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| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4436 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English
| Message 38 of 40 07 November 2013 at 5:17pm | IP Logged |
schoenewaelder wrote:
I also thought of another thing that could make language CDs harder to understand for
some people, which is, they still seem to often be spoken in a rather unnatural tone of
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And here, good sir, you hit the nail on the head, because we often use tone/cadence to fill us in when we mishear something.
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5166 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 39 of 40 07 November 2013 at 7:55pm | IP Logged |
Zireael wrote:
schoenewaelder wrote:
I also thought of another thing that could make language CDs harder to understand for
some people, which is, they still seem to often be spoken in a rather unnatural tone of
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And here, good sir, you hit the nail on the head, because we often use tone/cadence to fill us in when we mishear something. |
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No visual clues, either.
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| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4436 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English
| Message 40 of 40 02 February 2014 at 11:48am | IP Logged |
Gemuse found a great article which mentions the role of language as such in life and communication.
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/07/how-deaf-peo ple-think
Also, I'm writing my MA on the topic, and I'm halfway through it (literature review almost done) :D
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