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Kronos
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 Message 41 of 77
22 May 2013 at 12:33am | IP Logged 
iguanamon wrote:
I started this thread over a year ago because I was genuinely curious as to how someone could juggle multiple languages and if there was a benefit in doing so. Having gotten to know both serpent and kujichagulia, over the past year I have seen how this has benefited both of them. Kuji would've burned out on ajatt. To limit serpent to one language would not make her happy.

Whatever works for you, whether that is one language at a time or three in a day, is the way to go. We are all different and differently motivated. The proof is in the pudding as the saying goes. I think kuji has proven that it works for him to keep him from burning out and serpent has proven that it works for her. No defense is needed for either. To each his/her own.

I think the questions raised in the original post were sensible, sooner or later someone had to raise them, and also very precise and well-formulated. These are vital points, and one of the great advantages of this forum is that such threads can be reactived even after years and new posters can come up sharing their experience or sometimes old posters who have meanwhile revised their earlier opinions.

There will never be a consensus, because people, their goals and learning strategies are too different. There are those who focus on only one language, others who like to study 3-5 simultaneously, and quite a number of cases where people deal with about twenty languages, more or less at the same time, and with remarkable success. So we are speaking not only of moderate differences in learning styles, but sometimes these are of the scope of different dimensions altogether.

Much depends on individual goals and where we are coming from. I am sitting here at my desk in the outskirts of some unremarkable town in Germany and haven't been really abroad for almost a decade. Most of the people around me don't even know that I am interested in foreign languages, nor would they care to know, so I better don't bother them.

But if for some reason I would have to move to Spain or Mexico, my approach to languages would probably undergo some change. I love Spanish, and in that situation I would take every opportunity to live Spanish, breathe Spanish, and practice Spanish. I would also partake in the local culture, of which language is just one part. I guess that would divert me also from most of my bookish studies; maybe I would keep one language at a time as a balance, like French or Russian. It would be similar to what kujichagulia does right now.

But since this is not the case and in the present phase of my life language learning is more of a desktop occupation and at best virtual interaction my priorities and my overall approach are different. This can always change, one never knows what the future will bring. In my present situation I find it more motivating to expose myself to a varied spectrum of languages and build the foundation in at least some of them. It is obvious that I will not reach an advanced level in any of them for many years to come, but I can always adjust and focus on just one if I want or need to.

Another factor, and I see that this is a frequent potential source of mutual misunderstanding, is that here where I (and a lot of other posters) live people usually have to deal with several languages already in school and become more or less proficient in one, usually English, sometimes also either French or Spanish, at a relatively young age. This is so in many countries. Learning 2, 3 or 4 languages, even at the same time, is not deemed out-of-the-way at all, nor considered a feat. It is pretty normal and part of the school curriculum, so people are used to it if they still care about languages later on. Of course there are bad students and good students, but as with Maths, Physics, Biology and Chemistry they are just treated like entirely different subjects and don't get in the way of each other.

As for me I agree with Iversen who once wrote that studying languages simultaneously is not that much a problem of mixing them up, but of time and focus. Either 1, 2 or 3 languages at a time are manageable, but beyond that it becomes increasingly difficult to organize them and your progress in each of them will be slowed down considerably. But then again, it depends on your capability and goals.
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Serpent
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 Message 42 of 77
22 May 2013 at 1:39am | IP Logged 
Excellent post!!! Can it be quoted in a wikia article? :)
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kujichagulia
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 Message 43 of 77
22 May 2013 at 2:07am | IP Logged 
emk wrote:
I love following Serpent's Twitter account with football games in tons of different languages and I envy her ability to communicate with so many people.

This is a bit off topic, but I second this. It has come to the point where I look forward to what Serpent is going to tweet next! I don't know if that makes me a bit weird or not, but it is what it is.
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kujichagulia
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 Message 44 of 77
22 May 2013 at 2:12am | IP Logged 
Kronos wrote:
When I was trying to figure out how the FSI scale corresponds to the CEFR levels I found a number of comparative tables online, though I am not sure how reliable such comparisons are. In some the equivalent was given as B2, in others indeed as B2+ (never within the C range however).

It seems pretty clear on this Wikipedia page.
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Serpent
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 Message 45 of 77
22 May 2013 at 2:18am | IP Logged 
Aw, thank you *__________*
Many of my tweets shouldn't even make sense to you two?
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kujichagulia
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 Message 46 of 77
22 May 2013 at 2:23am | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
Aw, thank you *__________*
Many of my tweets shouldn't even make sense to you two?

The football ones do. :)
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emk
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 Message 47 of 77
22 May 2013 at 3:04am | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
Aw, thank you *__________*
Many of my tweets shouldn't even make sense to you two?

Oh, I admit I usually have no idea what you're talking about. :-) But your enthusiasm for the game and the players is obvious, and I sometimes imagine you following football games in 6 languages and possibly even yelling at the television in either frustration or glee. Or at least that's image in my head after following your Twitter account!

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Serpent
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 Message 48 of 77
22 May 2013 at 3:24am | IP Logged 
hehe :) i normally watch things online, even when something's on tv i find a foreign stream on my laptop :)
and that's an important way to make room for more language learning.


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