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vermillon Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4697 days ago 602 posts - 1042 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, German
| Message 17 of 86 10 April 2012 at 4:30pm | IP Logged |
The answer is quite simple: you should put on your CV things that are relevant to the job you're applying to.
-When I've applied to work in Machine Translation as part of a EU-funded project, I've indicated all of the languages I knew even to a very low degree of proficiency (but then I clearly stated I knew "basics").
-When applying for some research internship where I had found that the supervisor knew Esperanto (among quite a few other languages, including several African ones though he was white), I've included Esperanto on my CV. For no other job I would dare mentioning it, as most people (and particularly those who are so "money"- or "useful"-oriented as in HR) would consider it's stupid to learn it. But for that job, the supervisor brought the topic in the interview and I know it played its part in him considering I had passion for language and I got the offer.
-When I apply for a job in China, I don't fail to mention I like Chinese history and I'm studying Classical Chinese as it makes my chance to be recruited higher as I show genuine interest in the culture of the country, and people tend to be happy and proud in these occasions.
However, mentioning I speak Spanish (not fluently anymore) for a job in China is irrelevant and therefore not worth wasting one line of my CV for it. A CV is supposed to hold in one page maximum (more means you can't evaluate what is important and valuable in your profile) and you usually have to leave out things that you may consider important personally, but have no relevance to the job.
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5353 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 18 of 86 10 April 2012 at 4:46pm | IP Logged |
vermillon wrote:
-When I apply for a job in China, |
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How often do you apply for a job in China? :-)
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| Raincrowlee Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 6721 days ago 621 posts - 808 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Indonesian, Japanese
| Message 19 of 86 10 April 2012 at 5:47pm | IP Logged |
Heather McNamar wrote:
Solfrid Cristin wrote:
It probably has a different name in American. It is a document which specifies your formal education, work experience and other skills. Here, when you apply for a job you present two documents. Your CV - which is the same for all your jobs, and a letter of application, where you higlight why you want this particular job, and why you are perfect for it. |
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Ah, I see what you mean. I think we would call that a resume here in America, but I like the term "curriculum vitae" better. Thank you very much. |
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Though, from what I understand, CVs and resumes have different formats. CVs tend to be longer, 2-3 pages long typically. If a resume goes over a page, you better have some impressive credentials.
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| Heather McNamar Senior Member United States Joined 4801 days ago 77 posts - 109 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Latin
| Message 20 of 86 10 April 2012 at 5:48pm | IP Logged |
iguanamon wrote:
Don't worry, @Heather McNamar, when I first moved to England, I'd never heard of the term "CV". In the UK and Commonwealth English the common usage is "CV" refering to "Curriculum Vitae", a Latin term. In US English, a French term is used "Resumé". Ironic that in the English-speaking world we use two distinct foreign borrowings. I wonder why we don't have a commonly accepted, genuinely English, term for this? |
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Yes, very ironic indeed! And to further add to the confusion, my British-born stepfather uses the term resume but pronounces it "rez OO me" with emphasis on the second syllable. Of course, he does have roots in Canada, so maybe that's part of the reason why?
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| squonk Groupie United States Joined 4765 days ago 44 posts - 60 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Irish
| Message 21 of 86 10 April 2012 at 6:12pm | IP Logged |
Also, Heather, only the term "CV" is ever used in American academia. Professors only have
CVs, and never resumes. I was going to link to a few, but really, a good Google search
would produce bazillions of examples.
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| Ogrim Heptaglot Senior Member France Joined 4658 days ago 991 posts - 1896 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, French, Romansh, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Catalan, Latin, Greek, Romanian
| Message 22 of 86 10 April 2012 at 7:25pm | IP Logged |
A big part of my job is actually screening CVs and interviewing candidates (yes, I work in HR). My advice is: be honest. Now I work in an international setting and the members of the interview panel together may speak 10 languages or more. We once had a candidate who claimed to speak very good Russian. One of the interviewers was Russian so he put a couple of questions to the candidate, who turned red and started stuttering - after trying to put together one sentence he gave up and turned back to English. As a recruiter, inevitably you start wondering if there are other parts of the CV where the candidate exaggerates.
Personally, I put in my CV that I am "currently studying Russian", rather than claiming it to be a language I know (but then I am probably still between A1 and A2).
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5353 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 23 of 86 10 April 2012 at 10:01pm | IP Logged |
I have also interviewed people who have claimed to be fluent In French but who did not speak it at all. I
just deleted them from the list. My personal favorite was however the guy who said he had special skills in
organizing and conflict solving because he had grown up on a farm and had parents who had divorced. The
only one I liked even better was one of my sister's colleagues who was desperate to become a manager,
even though she had no formal education or relevant experience. Under "Management experience" she
wrote: " Have managed 20 cows".
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| Heather McNamar Senior Member United States Joined 4801 days ago 77 posts - 109 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Latin
| Message 24 of 86 10 April 2012 at 10:19pm | IP Logged |
squonk wrote:
Also, Heather, only the term "CV" is ever used in American academia. Professors only have
CVs, and never resumes. |
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That's a good point, since I should think one would associate the term "curriculum" with learning.
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