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ericblair
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 Message 17 of 22
25 June 2013 at 4:06am | IP Logged 
YnEoS wrote:
I wish I knew about Audacity's truncate silence and apply chain
features. It's made a lot of courses much better for study, and it would've saved me
many many hours of editing courses manually if I had known about it sooner.

Not a big deal, but I wish I knew about the Margarita Madrigal courses earlier in my
French studies, since they're really terrific beginner courses. Still getting
something out of them though, and I'm quite excited to be using the Russian course from
the beginning.


Can you explain how the apply chain feature works and how I do it?

Also, where on earth did you acquire a Russian Madrigal course?
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dtvrij74_
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 Message 18 of 22
25 June 2013 at 7:56pm | IP Logged 
For German:
Mission Berlin: An A1
level crime thriller (kind of) about a girl who has to save Europe from disaster. The
plot line is actually fairly interesting and engaging (a nice change from the shopping-
in-a-clothing-store-type scripts), the vocabulary is slightly challenging sometimes.
Also available in Polish and French. The other German courses on DW also look
interesting, though I haven't checked them out yet. The podcasts are on iTunes, the
script is on the website.

Edit: I'm not a spammer, I promise! Here's the link: http://www.dw.de/deutsch-
lernen/mission-europe/s-9731

Edited by dtvrij74_ on 25 June 2013 at 7:58pm

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Serpent
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 Message 19 of 22
25 June 2013 at 10:04pm | IP Logged 
Yes, it's really cool!
Here's a link to the main Mission Europe site.
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Jeffers
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 Message 20 of 22
27 June 2013 at 1:19pm | IP Logged 
I have to respectfully disagree with Serpent and dtvrij74: I think the Mission Europe course is well produced but just too shallow. I listened to about 12 lessons with my two sons to help them with their French, and the only phrase which stuck in our heads was the oft repeated "Do you want to play? Do you want to play?"... in English of course!!

For German, Deutsche Welle has done similar, but much more in depth course called Radio D. As with Mission Europe, most of the talking is in English, but the course has significant chunks of German, which they use to train your ear to pick out key ideas.

Also, the Mission Europe podcasts are only about 5-6 minutes each (if I remember correctly), but the Radio D podcasts last 18-20 minutes each. Series 1 of Radio D is aimed at A1, series 2 is aimed at A2, and both series have 26 episodes, along with substantial accompanying material, so there is a lot to get out of it.
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montmorency
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 Message 21 of 22
27 June 2013 at 2:22pm | IP Logged 
ericblair wrote:


Can you explain how the apply chain feature works and how I do it?



I must admit, I haven't yet used the apply chain facility in Audacity, but it seems
like a great idea.

Apply Chain from Audacity
manual



n.b. for anyone still using an old version of Audacity (for a long time, the "Beta" was
the one to use), version 2.0 was released earlier this year:

Audacity version 2.0


It seems to have a lot of improvements, but note you still have to download Lame
separately in order to export Audacity data to MP3 format (but their instructions make
it very easy for you to get hold of it and install it). This restriction is for
licensing reasons, not because they want to make life hard for people.
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YnEoS
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 Message 22 of 22
28 June 2013 at 8:21pm | IP Logged 
ericblair wrote:
YnEoS wrote:
I wish I knew about Audacity's truncate silence and apply chain
features. It's made a lot of courses much better for study, and it would've saved me
many many hours of editing courses manually if I had known about it sooner.

Not a big deal, but I wish I knew about the Margarita Madrigal courses earlier in my
French studies, since they're really terrific beginner courses. Still getting
something out of them though, and I'm quite excited to be using the Russian course from
the beginning.


Can you explain how the apply chain feature works and how I do it?

Also, where on earth did you acquire a Russian Madrigal course?


Sorry for the delayed response, I forgot about this discussion for a while.

I see someone already posted links to guides on using audacity but I thought I'd just offer my own explanation
as well specifically for people trying to manipulate language courses.

Basically a chain does the same simple commands to many audio files automatically. So to create a chain
just find Edit Chains in the main menu and then select Truncate Silence, followed by Export MP3. For setting
its default is to use the last settings you used, so the easiest way is to manipulate an mp3 manually first then
create a chain for the rest. Or you can figure it out in the Edit Chain menu. Then just select apply chain and
select all the audio files you want to modify and walk away til it's finished.

I found a PDF of the Russian Madrigal course after a lot googling and false download links. Even though its
and out of print course I'm not sure if it's public domain or not so I won't post any links here, but anyone who
needs help finding it can send me a PM.



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