pushkin Tetraglot Groupie France Joined 5534 days ago 49 posts - 60 votes Speaks: French*, Portuguese, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), German, Modern Hebrew
| Message 17 of 26 31 May 2012 at 7:35pm | IP Logged |
Yes, the series languages in 90 lessons ( excepted Italian) are better than Assimil. Unfortunatly some of them like "le portugais en 90 leçons", la pratique courante du neerlandais" , "la pratique courante de l'espagnol" and "la pratique courante de l'italien" are no longer published. Others like " la pratique du néerlandais don't offer tapes more and they are published without audio.
"la pratique courante" is the same as "improve your language" or "perfectionnement" of Assimil, it was the continuation of " pratique de base" or the older "X en 90 leçons"
The same thing occurred with Press Pocket series ( 40 leçons, communiquez...) some of the titles ( often very interesting) aren't published anymore ( for instance : "communiquez en russe", "pratiquer le japonais" and so on...).
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PillowRock Groupie United States Joined 4749 days ago 87 posts - 151 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 18 of 26 02 June 2012 at 1:46am | IP Logged |
I went to amazon.fr and searched for one of the titles in the above post.
From that product page I got the publisher and googled them.
Then I poked around their web site a bit until I found their language collection here.
Then I went back to amazon.fr and searched for a couple variations of the latest Spanish title listed (showing a publication dat of April, 2009) by the publisher and came with Espagnol débutant : Devenez complètement autonome en 3 mois (6CD audio).
Is that an updated version of the series that being talked about?
Edited by PillowRock on 02 June 2012 at 1:47am
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daristani Senior Member United States Joined 7159 days ago 752 posts - 1661 votes Studies: Uzbek
| Message 19 of 26 02 June 2012 at 8:02pm | IP Logged |
Yes, PillowRock, it does seem to be the updated version of the series.
I glanced over the list of the website you provided, and it struck me that while some of the books included audio, most seemed not to. I think that this is another difference between this series and Assimil: With Assimil, the audio is seen as a major part of the approach, while with this series, the emphasis seems to be more on assimilating the grammar and the vocabulary primarily via the book.
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AlexTG Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 4653 days ago 178 posts - 354 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, German, Spanish, Japanese
| Message 20 of 26 05 May 2014 at 1:01pm | IP Logged |
I'm half way through "Allemand Débutant" right now and it's fantastic. Methode90 will be my first stop when I
learn other languages in the series.
However the books currently seem to be sold in two editions, one with CDs, one without. The books which
come with CDs say on the cover "1 leçon par jour pendant 3 mois", the ones without say "1 leçon par jour
pendant 2 mois", even though they have the same title. I have a non-CD copy, and it does in fact only have
50 lessons. Where in the world did the other 40 lessons wander off to? According to the Livre De Poche
website both books have the same number of pages.
Edited by AlexTG on 05 May 2014 at 1:10pm
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AlexTG Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 4653 days ago 178 posts - 354 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, German, Spanish, Japanese
| Message 21 of 26 05 May 2014 at 1:26pm | IP Logged |
Might as well drop a review while I'm here.
Pros:
Follows same characters and story throughout
Not much need of reviewing previous chapters, new concepts get repeated regularly after they're presented
for first time.
All content all the time, no fluffing around. Does contain some exercises, but they all provide reading content
in the TL.
Grammar explanations are very clear.
Very portable, it fits in your pocket, because it's pocket sized, it's the size of a pocket.
Cons:
No dictionary at at the back. Annoying when you've forgotten a word.
I found the pronunciation guide at the start to be a bit confusing.
The story isn't particularly interesting.
Vocab for chapters is in some sort of crazy order, neither alphabetical, nor chronological.
Edited by AlexTG on 05 May 2014 at 1:27pm
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Henkkles Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4268 days ago 544 posts - 1141 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: Russian
| Message 22 of 26 06 May 2014 at 8:54am | IP Logged |
I was just visiting France and I found two of these books new for 6,60€ apiece at a bookstore (which is the standard price) so I picked up Espagnol and Italien Débutant (1 leçon par jour pendant 3 mois) and as I was leafing through them, they seemed quite good although like the previous poster pointed out, no vocabulary section. This was obviously done to cut down the price and the size of the book though, so it doesn't bother me that much. I didn't get the audio because Spanish and Italian are quite easy to listen in comparison to French.
Now I will just have to learn French.
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Arnaud25 Diglot Senior Member France Joined 3857 days ago 129 posts - 235 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Russian
| Message 23 of 26 19 May 2014 at 6:38pm | IP Logged |
AlexTG wrote:
I'm half way through "Allemand Débutant" right now and it's fantastic. Methode90 will be my first stop when I
learn other languages in the series.
However the books currently seem to be sold in two editions, one with CDs, one without. The books which
come with CDs say on the cover "1 leçon par jour pendant 3 mois", the ones without say "1 leçon par jour
pendant 2 mois", even though they have the same title. I have a non-CD copy, and it does in fact only have
50 lessons. Where in the world did the other 40 lessons wander off to? According to the Livre De Poche
website both books have the same number of pages. |
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Hello
The book "Allemand débutant" contains 50 lessons and is exactly the same whether you buy it with the CDs or not.
The audio doesn't match exactly the book. The exercices are numbered differently on the CDs and in the book, it's sometimes annoying.
The dialogues on the Cds are recorded with a "background noise": noise of the supermarket, airport, office, music, etc.
The "Méthode 90 Allemand" is the previous edition of "Allemand débutant". Its content is completly different. It contains 90 lessons with the audio (without background noise, what a pleasure :)), and is more difficult, amho, than "Allemand débutant".
I think it's necessary to indicate that the first edition of the "Méthode 90" is not really for true beginners, but false beginners or people who want to refresh their knowledge because the speed of progression is rather high (higher than in Assimil or TY)
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Hungringo Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4003 days ago 168 posts - 329 votes Speaks: Hungarian*, English, Spanish Studies: French
| Message 24 of 26 29 January 2016 at 10:00pm | IP Logged |
I have managed to buy the 1992 edition of "Methode 90 - The French language of today in 90 lessons" but find it impossible to get hold of the audio. I would be happy to purchase the audio for a reasonable price. Thanks a lot.
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