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Lucky Charms
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 Message 9 of 15
27 May 2012 at 10:19am | IP Logged 
I agree with aldo. I studied Linguistics at a US university and never saw APA used in a
class, textbook, or academic paper. IPA was the standard for everything.
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Hampie
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 Message 10 of 15
27 May 2012 at 3:35pm | IP Logged 
aldo wrote:
Hampie where did you do linguistics--because that is patently wrong advice. IPA is what
all papers are presented in (all phonology sketches etc are written in IPA--not something
else). APA is more accurate but it lost power after the 80s

If you only look at the phonemic inventory of a language in linguistics textbooks, that might be true, but what kind
of linguist is that? Reading nothing in languages? Reading no books published by languages scholars and
philologists? Learning both isn't hard. The more you know, the better.
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 Message 11 of 15
27 May 2012 at 11:33pm | IP Logged 
In what exactly is APA more accurate than IPA?
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aldo
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 Message 12 of 15
01 June 2012 at 5:31am | IP Logged 
A REAL linguist is what that would be Hampie and not some dilettantish tyro. And you did
linguistics where, again?

The differences between APA and IPA requires a class. As with any profound academic
subject, you can't just glean everything about languages from a free forum on the
internet.
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Volte
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 Message 13 of 15
01 June 2012 at 9:31am | IP Logged 
aldo wrote:
A REAL linguist is what that would be Hampie and not some dilettantish tyro. And you did
linguistics where, again?

The differences between APA and IPA requires a class. As with any profound academic
subject, you can't just glean everything about languages from a free forum on the
internet.


Stop the personal attacks, please.

Not all papers use IPA, and plenty of older material also doesn't. If you have not come across it yourself, fine, but to deny this material exists is a bit mind-boggling. You can find some starting points at the wikipedia page on APA. Here's a specific example, published in 2005: On the etymology of the verbal root "t?l" 'to play' and its cognates in North-Eastern Neo-Aramaic.

No one has mentioned "gleaning everything from a free forum on the internet". Personally, I've never taken a formal class on linguistics: but I have read many academic webpages, a fair number of PhD theses and grammars, and have about a shelf of linguistics books, many of which are aimed at graduate students. And I consider Hampie to be a good deal more knowledgeable on these topics than I am.

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Hampie
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 Message 14 of 15
01 June 2012 at 12:28pm | IP Logged 
I do not study "linguistics" I study philology, but that is language science too, and I'm accustomed to IPA. As far as
"free sources" concern I've found many being quite high quality things on-line, even in the subjects I study. And as
for IPA Wikipedia is actually a good source since it has examples from dozens of languages and audio samples of
the sounds for every IPA "sign".

One does not have to be a linguist to be accustomed to phonetics, grammar or how languages evolve. Maybe you
have to be a linguist to understand Choamsky's theories, but I've never bothered with that - besides that's beside
the point.
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Kyle Corrie
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 Message 15 of 15
01 June 2012 at 2:41pm | IP Logged 
aldo wrote:
A REAL linguist is what that would be Hampie and not some dilettantish
tyro. And you did linguistics where, again?

The differences between APA and IPA requires a class. As with any profound academic
subject, you can't just glean everything about languages from a free forum on the
internet.


Volte wrote:
Stop the personal attacks, please.


That's everyone's favorite YouTube psychopath Christophe Clugston. He knows no other
manner of communicating other than to insult -- which is surprising considering he'll
ramble on forever about his linguistic pedigree in spite of the fact that he writes as
if he never finished high school.

You shouldn't even listen to him anyway. "He's not even using a real name! He's not
using a picture! Rawr! Rawr! (Garble) Rawr! Degree! Rawr!"


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