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| ZombieKing Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4309 days ago 247 posts - 324 votes  Speaks: English*, Mandarin* | Message 1 of 27 30 August 2012 at 10:27pm | IP Logged | ||
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I find that for me, however long I study is about how long I have to review too. This has been a recurring pattern since I started studying more seriously. If I study German for an hour and a half, I'll have to spend maybe 45 minutes to an hour just reviewing all of that, not including the anki reps I do in the morning which take about 15-20 minutes.
How about for you guys? Do you find that you have to spend the same amount of time reviewing as you do studying actively? I've never liked anki, but now I'm starting to despise it... If I didn't need it I'd stay far far away from it... :S I think my anki reps are the worst part of my day. It's really tedious, but it is effective at least. Is there any way you guys make your review sessions less painful? I like to take my vocabulary journal and review that while I watch movies or tv with my family. During boring parts of the movie, or during commercials on tv I review the words I learned that day. That makes it a little less annoying, and allows me to spend extra time with my family. What do you guys do to make your reviewing more streamlined? Edited by ZombieKing on 30 August 2012 at 10:34pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Julie Heptaglot Senior Member PolandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6685 days ago 1251 posts - 1733 votes 5 sounds Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, GermanC2, SpanishB2, Dutch, Swedish, French | Message 2 of 27 30 August 2012 at 11:32pm | IP Logged | ||
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I often watch something in the background while doing SRS (Anki or other software). But I
never hated SRS: at the moment, I spend just ca. 10 minuts a day on that but sometimes I would learn 1-1,5 hours a day this way and actually enjoy it (well, at least some of this). Other than that, I review as much as I need and not a bit more. (I know, this doesn't sound very specific...) With Assimil, I would just listen a couple of previous lessons every other day or so. With Michel Thomas, I just continue the course with no special reviews (but the method itself allows me to do that). I did review a lot while learning Arabic script, though. I guess it depends on the language and the kind of content then. Generally, SRS is the only kind of review I got used to and actually like. With a typical textbook course, I would love to progress as fast as possible and never look back ;)) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4650 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 3 of 27 30 August 2012 at 11:33pm | IP Logged | ||
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I have two annoying Anki decks and two decks that are fun (audio-sentence cards and picture-sentence cards). That's all the reviewing I do. I spend a lot of time on Anki - not only reviewing, but also making cards. That's all part of the learning process, but sometimes I do wonder whether I'd be better off spending all that time reading.
I think it both helps to make more interesting cards (which will probably also improve your recall) and to get into a routine of when you review your cards. Also, I'd definitely recommend time-boxing. Even if you plan to do all cards in one go, getting a small break after 10 minutes or so makes it a little less tedious. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Majka Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic kofoholici.wordpress Joined 4439 days ago 307 posts - 755 votes Speaks: Czech*, German, English Studies: French Studies: Russian | Message 4 of 27 30 August 2012 at 11:53pm | IP Logged | ||
Putting outrageous sentences there will help for sure. The two English euphemisms "kick the bucket" and "push up the daisies" stuck at first hearing - it was a part of very short radio course and the subject was presented like this: After the queen kicks the bucket and starts pushing up the daisies ... It has to be almost 20 years that I have heard this broadcast and the picture is still stuck in my head. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ZombieKing Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4309 days ago 247 posts - 324 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin* | Message 5 of 27 31 August 2012 at 12:24am | IP Logged | ||
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I think spending a lot of time on Anki is very effective, but at the moment I can only spend so much time before I feel like my soul is being eaten away D:
I think maybe the reason why Anki annoys me so much is because I don't use any pictures or audio like you do, it's just text... So I find it to be quite dry. Maybe one day I'll try making better cards xD "After the queen kicks the bucket and starts pushing up the daisies ... " LOL! As a native speaker I have absolutely no idea what it means, but it sounds hilarious :P 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6379 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 6 of 27 31 August 2012 at 12:26am | IP Logged | ||
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Yes, get fun cards! Use sentences!!! That's also a way to have less total cards, as with each sentence you review more than one thing.
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| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4610 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 7 of 27 31 August 2012 at 1:45am | IP Logged | ||
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We also have "turned his toes up".
(but maybe this belongs in that other thread...). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tanya b Senior Member United States Joined 4560 days ago 159 posts - 518 votes Speaks: Russian | Message 8 of 27 31 August 2012 at 1:56am | IP Logged | ||
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I think that constant reviewing of previously learned material is an essential component of successful language learning.
My philosophy is as follows--it's not important whether you learn anything new today. What's important is whether you remember what you learned yesterday 2 years from now. I'm afraid I haven't found a way to make reviewing more enjoyable--it is tedious and monotonous, so I do almost all of my reviewing early in the day just do get it over with. My reviews consist of simply reading out loud from extensive word lists which I have made from dictionaries in my target languages. I learn every single word which I think every well-rounded person would have in their vocabulary. So this amounts to thousand of words. My goal is always to be able to describe either a major news event, such as like a hurricane and it's aftermath, or an unusual incident, like a driver who cut me off in traffic (not so unusual) or a child being stung by a bee in the park. These self-talk exercise would be impossible for me without enormous amounts of review. The point is to be prepared and anticipate that a conversation in any of my target languages could go in any direction. Think of conversing fluently with a native speaker in your target language as a kind of performance in a language Olympics competition. Anyone can put on a pair of ice skates--it's what happens on the ice that's important. It may be a 3 minute performance, but it may have required 3,000 hours of repetition and review. I am really quite a lazy person so for me this is a good exercise in itself--I am forcing myself to do something I absolutely hate. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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