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| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4450 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes  Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 1 of 6 23 September 2012 at 11:32pm | IP Logged |
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Hello, this is my second log but this one will quite different from the mandarin one
considering the starting level is very different. First of All, Japanese. I have been studying it on and off for about four years but my study time has been getting longer with the years. I started with evening classes for 2 years during which... well, I basicly learned the very basics. I was pretty deceived by the content but at the end of the second year I had the opportunity to get directly in second year of the Japanese degree bachelor so I studied 400 kanjis fast to catch up with the first year students and got in. The next year, my level grew pretty fast but as I was doing a double diploma, I had just time to study the lessons and no extra study. Since last year, I've been studying on my own. I tried the JLPT n2 last december which I failed by 4 points but it got me even more motivated. After, I went to Tokyo for 4 months for an exchange and as a result my level greatly improved. I passed the jlpt n2 in July without studying for it at all with 60/60 in listening. However, the rest was pretty bad (worst than in december for one...). Since I came back, I kinda stopped studying actively to focus on Chinese (which i just started about a month and a half ago). I just read here and there a book I bought in Japan (｢すごい勉強法｣っていう 本), wrote once or twice on Lang-8 and talked with my japanese friends. I decided to pass the jlpt n1 with ease in december 2013 (once per year in france.....) so I bought yesterday one book called 日本語総まとめ(読解)N1 and I am planning to finish it (as I am supposed to) before the end of the year so that when my friends come from japan they can bring me more stuff. I'll also be reusing a book that helped me greatly for my grammar last year ： 完全マスター試験に出る文法と表現N2-N1 except that this time, I will be focusing on the N1 part. My second Language I will be writing about will be korean. I started one year later than japanese but actually never studied it actively for a prolonged period and got to my "at ease" level with a bit of TalkToMeInKorean and a total of 3months in Korea in the past 2 years. I can basicaly have a normal talk in Korean without much trouble but my range of vocabulary and grammar are pretty thin so I'd like to Improve those, even though I will not spend much time on Korean for now (focusing on Chinese mostly and Japanese a bit too). It may change with time though. I will be using mostly books I got from Seoul National University, a website called "advancedkorean" and TTMIK here and there. Anyway, time for my goals! Japanese: - Pass the JLPT N1 without any problem in 2013 - Read with ease a book, a newspaper article or pretty much anything by July 2013 - Improve my capacity to produce the language (really be able to make nuances in my speech) Korean: - Improve my speech speed (too slow compared to my Japanese) - Be able to read books without to much trouble by the beginning of September 2013 - Find out which level I could be in the TOPIK and take it in the end of 2013 (no idea whatsover for now) Anyway, long post, but a bit needed. I'll be posting every 2 or 3 days if I can. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4686 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 2 of 6 24 September 2012 at 1:07pm | IP Logged |
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Nice to see a new addition to the Korean logs :) Good luck with your language goals!
From what you have written it sounds like you'd easily pass TOPIK level 2. You will probably want to aim for level 3 or 4 of the Intermediate test. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4450 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 3 of 6 24 September 2012 at 3:39pm | IP Logged |
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I'd actually probably go for 5 or 6 next year I think. I have no problem at all expressing
myself whatever the topic, even though my answers might be easy sentences. For now, I guess I could be at level 3/4 but with some holes in my knowledge of Korean here and there. 2 years ago, I took an intermediate evening class for a year and I was pretty much the best (well, I was coming back from Korea after all..) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4450 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 4 of 6 02 October 2012 at 6:34pm | IP Logged |
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Quick Update :
Japanese : I haven't done much in the end. I finished the first week of 日本語総まとめ N1読解 on saturday but because of a busy schedule these days, I haven't started week 2 yet. I think I'll do that today if all goes well. I'm up to page 80 of my book. Not reading really much these days but a few pages every one or two days. I am however using my japanese on a daily basis to talk to friends and search for a few things on internet. I actually also started today to listen to NHK news on my phone. Felt good so I will probably continue. Korean: It just happens to be even worse than japanese.. I literally did not do any formal study at all. All I did was watch a full drama (응답하라1997) and it was actually pleasant to hear the busan dialect which I had heard only a few times before. I also checked my three first books of Active Korean from SNU to look for any grammar point I did not know (I stopped studying those around the middle of the second) and saw none all the way to the end of book 3. I'll check book 4 tonight or tomorrow. It might have something considering it's the last one of this series. Conclusion: A sad week for those 2 languages but it should get better now that I am (finally) getting a better routine.. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4450 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 5 of 6 20 October 2012 at 8:20pm | IP Logged |
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First update for 2 weeks, but i should be back in a more regular routine from now on.
Japanese : Still going on with 日本語総まとめ and I am now up to week 3 lesson 5. The level varies highly depending on days and extracts. I sometimes have no idea what the text is about while sometimes I can read it as if it was English. Still, I am clearly aware that my Kanji skills are not quite here yet and thus I am trying to figure out a way to take care of that. I have heard of the Kanji in Context but cannot seem to find it here in France. Any other ideas? Related to speaking though, I spent a week pretty much fully with Japanese friends and by the end of it, I was feeling much more at ease. I guess it does come back quickly. Korean : Quite bad... Actually horrible. I haven't done anything for the past ... I don't know how many weeks. Just talked a bit to friends, watch 1 or 2 films and that's it. However I am starting to feel the urge to study it once more so I should be back soon enough. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4450 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 6 of 6 27 October 2012 at 10:55pm | IP Logged |
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Well.. Still not on a regular routine. Being looking for a job is making feel guilty
when I am not searching for a work so my study is still quite messed up. Japanese: missed a few days on 日本語総まとめ. I am now at week 4 lesson 3. I think when I will finish this book, I will go back to 試験に出る文法と表現 for n2 and n1 which I used for n2 last year, skipping all grammar for n1. I guess it's about time to dive back in. For now though, I am just going on with 日本語総まとめ and watching a few dramas or movies here and there. I had a website to download them in Jap subtitled in Japanese and Chinese but I can use it for now so unfortunately, I am stuck with English subtitles. Korean : Still not study at all. I did watch a few films and a few videos from talk to me in korean. The last one I saw was an Advanced level that they just started. I felt quite bad when I realized I should understand everything but did not.. I am really looking forward to find my job so that I can concentrate on my languages again. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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