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Interpreting:Getting to B2 in MSA arabic

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Asperger-glot
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 Message 1 of 19
07 November 2012 at 11:13am | IP Logged 
I am planning on working as an interpreter in MSA arabic at an asylum center.
I will not be translating difficult tech stuff, but rather ordinary things which people on an asylum center encounter.
I´m thinking that being on a level between B2 and C1 is adequate for the task.

I am right now on a low intermediate level in MSA arabic.

This is the plan:
1) Assimil arabe sans peine
2) Assimil perfectionnement arabe
3) Al kitab pt.1
4) Al kitab pt.2
5 Al kitab pt.3

I will be spending most of the time on the Assimil books.
What do you all think of this project? Is it realistic?
I will be starting this project in the summer of 2013 I have one year.

Edited by Fasulye on 11 November 2012 at 7:31pm

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vermillon
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 Message 2 of 19
07 November 2012 at 1:03pm | IP Logged 
I don't know much of Arabic, but is "MSA" the appropriate language to deal with asylum seekers, i.e. most likely to be people who do not speak MSA?
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07 November 2012 at 1:04pm | IP Logged 
Wouldn't work, none of them will speak MSA but their local dialects. Figure out their
mother tongue, then learn that instead, sounds like a better plan to me.

Edited by tarvos on 07 November 2012 at 1:05pm

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Asperger-glot
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 Message 4 of 19
07 November 2012 at 2:12pm | IP Logged 
Actually I have worked there some months as a teacher in danish, The adults from Syria
did spoke MSA very well. But then, let´s say that I complete my plan for MSA and then use
3 months on the libanese dialect. ?
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07 November 2012 at 2:22pm | IP Logged 
That would work, since you would cover both written and spoken.
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fiolmattias
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 Message 6 of 19
07 November 2012 at 8:00pm | IP Logged 
vermillon wrote:
I don't know much of Arabic, but is "MSA" the appropriate language to
deal with asylum seekers, i.e. most likely to be people who do not speak MSA?


??? Where does that come from? Most arabic speakers in Sweden came that way and while few
of them speak MSA fluently the majority of them are excellent at faking MSA. Atleast the
first few years before they prefer Swedish before MSA which they slowly loses because of
lack of exposure.

And the problem with learning a dialect to help asylum seekers is - what dialect should
you choose that you'll understand what they say?
The best approch is like he suggested. First MSA to B2-C1 and then perhaps levantine or
any other dialect (or several) of his preference.
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 Message 7 of 19
07 November 2012 at 9:23pm | IP Logged 
fiolmattias wrote:
??? Where does that come from?


Well, I don't know Arabic, but every discussion on the topic suggests that "nobody speaks MSA". I hope this is not the case, because I'd like to learn it at some point, but that's what is said in about any discussion: that only educated people would know MSA and I suppose (but here again it may be wrong) that asylum seekers don't consist only of educated people.
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Asperger-glot
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 Message 8 of 19
07 November 2012 at 9:40pm | IP Logged 
The refugees from Syria whom I spoke with in MSA, when working as a teacher, were kurdish syrians. They had no trouble speaking MSA. Maybe these people are above average when speaking of education level.?
I believe, as a rule of thumb,that the more years an arab person has gone to school the more MSA he knows.


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