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Michael K.
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 Message 25 of 35
29 March 2012 at 6:25pm | IP Logged 
Sorry, guys, I'm a sucker. I fell prey to the fallacy that if it's reported in the mainstream press, it's accurate.

I can understand why Tammet is a fraud. I've read the thread Splog started called "Languge Savants" , and I've borrowed Moonwalking with Einstein from the library to confirm Splog's reporting of the facts (plus it sounds like an interesting book). Tammet was trying to sell his book and other business ideas.

I don't understand why there would be hyperbole about Taylor's ability, because it's not like he was doing it for self-promotion.

Does anyone have any ideas why Taylor's story is so overblown?
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Ari
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 Message 26 of 35
30 March 2012 at 7:14am | IP Logged 
Michael K. wrote:
I don't understand why there would be hyperbole about Taylor's ability, because it's not like he was doing it for self-promotion.

Does anyone have any ideas why Taylor's story is so overblown?

Journalists will overblow any story they can get their hands on, something which is evident if you look at how science is reported in the general press.

Scientist: It's possible these results, if confirmed by independent studies, might cause us to have to rethink some aspects of general relativity.
Newspaper: EINSTEIN WAS WRONG, SCIENTIST SAYS

Polyglot: I don't like the word "fluent", nor can I specify how many languages I "speak". I can converse freely and easily in half a dozen or so, make myself understood in another dozen and understand at least the gist of a text in perhaps thirty languages total.
Newspaper: GENIUS FLUENT IN THIRTY LANGUAGES
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Michael K.
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 Message 27 of 35
30 March 2012 at 1:08pm | IP Logged 
I get the point, but serious sources of news, like my linguistics textbook, reported Taylor knew several languages although he was retarded.

I can understand hyperbole from one source, but many sources?

It's a bit troubling.
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Journeyer
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 Message 28 of 35
30 March 2012 at 1:31pm | IP Logged 
From watching the video clip of Christopher Taylor, it seemed like the man studying him was doing nothing to refute claims of fluency in multiple languages, or at least claims of a deep level of knowledge.
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Volte
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 Message 29 of 35
30 March 2012 at 6:24pm | IP Logged 
Michael K. wrote:
I get the point, but serious sources of news, like my linguistics textbook, reported Taylor knew several languages although he was retarded.

I can understand hyperbole from one source, but many sources?

It's a bit troubling.


Sources tend to rely on each other. They're generally not all looking directly at the available evidence.

It's quite common in the media for various outlets to rely to some degree on each other, getting further and further from any kind of accuracy in the process.
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dampingwire
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 Message 30 of 35
31 March 2012 at 1:00am | IP Logged 
Splog wrote:


There is strong evidence that Daniel Tammet is a fraud. Search this forum for other
threads on the topic. However, the short story is that he is not a savant (Cambridge
university scanned his brain and found it to be perfectly normal), he also used to
participate in world memory championships using standard memory techniques (even
working as a memory coach). Only in recent years did he reinvent his story to claim it
is down to being a savant.



I remember the Horizon program from a few years ago where they sent him to Iceland for
a week (iirc) and at the end of that he was interviewed on Icelandic TV. I've read some
threads on various other fora that claim that all he's done is make use of standard
memory techniques. If that's all he's used to learn (some level of functional)
Icelandic in a week, then why are there so few people here who speak double digit
numbers of languages?

Or are there claims that he already knew at least some basic Icelandic?

Just to be clear, I'm not bothered about what he or any one else claims he is. Just
whether he picked up 9seemingly) quite a bit of a new language in a very short length
of time.

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kman543210
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 Message 31 of 35
31 March 2012 at 2:13am | IP Logged 
dampingwire wrote:

I remember the Horizon program from a few years ago where they sent him to Iceland for
a week (iirc) and at the end of that he was interviewed on Icelandic TV. I've read some
threads on various other fora that claim that all he's done is make use of standard
memory techniques. If that's all he's used to learn (some level of functional)
Icelandic in a week, then why are there so few people here who speak double digit
numbers of languages?

Or are there claims that he already knew at least some basic Icelandic?

Just to be clear, I'm not bothered about what he or any one else claims he is. Just
whether he picked up 9seemingly) quite a bit of a new language in a very short length
of time.

I saw that program where they showed him on Icelandic television as well, but I don't have an opinion on whether he is or isn't a savant. What I would like to know is what memory technique could he be using to get such seemingly good results?
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Maecenas23
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 Message 32 of 35
10 August 2013 at 11:30am | IP Logged 
Are there French speakers who can assess his French?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylTrm3x-DuY

Edited by Maecenas23 on 10 August 2013 at 11:31am



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