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Mikonai’s TAC 2013 Log: German + Swahili?

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mikonai
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 Message 1 of 8
30 December 2012 at 11:00pm | IP Logged 
Because challenges always help me focus:

I don't actually speak any German at this point. My mother's parents were German, but
especially seeing as it was just after WWII, they never taught it to their children.
I'd love to learn it though, since it's a strong part of my heritage, and on top of
that it seems a fun language to learn.

Anyway, I have an Assimil course on order (though I don't think it's been shipped just
yet), and I'll see if I can apply some learning skills and strategies I got from
learning Italian to learning German. That'll involve Assimil, hopefully no other
specific course, if I can avoid spending the money (I'm cheap), Anki for vocabulary,
maybe some Duolingo exercises and the like as well.

As for Swahili, it's less of a priority, but probably an easier language to learn. The
main difficulty will be finding materials for it: the good news isthar my parents both
speak at least a little, and they'll be nice enough to talk to me for practice, and
help explain some grammar. I think I might challenge myself to learn this language
using minimal money, if I can.


So here are my actual goals:

*Achieve German B1, hopefully
*Achive Swahili A2, at least.
*Log it all!


Definitely need to focus on my listening comprehension, since that's my weakest area
even in Italian. It's just not my favorite thing to sit and listen to things for an
extended period of time. At a certain point though, games like Minecraft should help me
out, since they give me something to do while I listen to an audiobook or podcast or
some such. Which reminds me, I want to work on Italian at least enough to keep it on
level, even if I don't make much improvement this year.

So... this should be fun!


Current Running Tally of Handy Resources I'm Using (divided by language!):
German:
http://www.ielanguages.com/German.html (nice German grammar reference!)
http://www.podclub.ch -- podcasts for learning languages, just simple stories/someone
talking carefully, with transcript in the same language. No translation.


Swahili:


Edited by mikonai on 01 January 2013 at 6:24pm

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mikonai
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 Message 2 of 8
30 December 2012 at 11:29pm | IP Logged 
Seeing as the first of the year is coming up soon, and my book hasn't arrived yet (has it
even been shipped yet? I can't tell), I think I'll want to go ahead and do a little
research on basic German syntax and pronunciation. I've actually looked up the sounds in
German, and I think I can pronounce them all, but I don't know anything much about German
spelling. So off I go!
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mikonai
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 Message 3 of 8
31 December 2012 at 9:07pm | IP Logged 
Is it allowable to go ahead and be posting before the first of the year, anyway? Oh
well.

I was in the middle of composing an entry here about what I was going to do while I
waited for my Assimil course to arrive, since it looked like I wasn't going to get it
until Wednesday or so, but then the mail arrived, and with it a package! This works out
great: I have time to rip the CDs and load them onto my MP3 player and be ready for
when the challenge officially starts. And here I was worrying about cobbling together
some Swahili resources in time, and furthermore staying focused on Swahili when there
are always German options...

Anyway, a few first-impression comments about the book: this appears to be a 2001
printing/edition, 486 total pages, 100 lessons. There are notes on pretty much every
lesson, and a pronunciation key at least on the first few (much like in my Italian
course). There are also some pronunciation instructions at the beginning and a
grammatical appendix in the back. All in all I think I'll be pretty happy with it
(although I've never had an older course to compare).

Anyway, tomorrow I'll plan to do the first lesson, and since I can decipher IPA, I'll
probably find another source for learning the spellings, which should help out. I'd
also like to spend at least an hour or two on Swahili, gathering some grammar
essentials and the like. I think I'll also use Anki for both languages and vocabulary,
although Assimil of course says that sort of thing isn't exactly "necessary".

I'm a little too shy to do the "speaking from day one" thing, at least speaking with
other people, but since I have such a wonderful team of people to help me out, I think
with German at least I'll be trying to write from very early on. As for Swahili, well,
in the absence of anyone to write to (for now) I'll have to figure something else out.
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mikonai
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 Message 4 of 8
01 January 2013 at 6:37pm | IP Logged 
Happy New Year, everyone! Ooh, how do you say that in German? Ah, Frohes Neues
Jahr
.

I think at least half of learning a language is knowing where to look for things to
learn with. I still don't have that down yet. Anyway, today I stumbled upon a wonderful
"language tutorial" site, which seems to include a very nice overview of German
grammar, including German pronunciation (with IPA and examples!), useful
phrases, all sorts of grammar things... seriously, that place is huge. They also have
tutorials for other Germanic languages and Romance languages, but I haven't looked
around there much yet. I'll add the URL to my running tally in my first post (which is
now a thing), and I guess put it here for those too lazy to scroll up a few posts (also
habits are good, usually, well sometimes): http://www.ielanguages.com/German.html


Anyway, I also did the first lesson of Assimil several times through, but I'm not
satisfied with their approximation at pronunciation explanations, which is why I was
looking for more online resources in the first place. Also grammar, because I like
grammar. But I do know how to talk about tea now! Well, a little.

Der Tee ist kalt und die Tasse ist zu klein.

Or something like that. Not a very good cup of tea, actually. This morning my tea was
actually in a nice big mug and it was hot and absolutely delicious. But I don't really
know how to say that yet. I can manage der Tee ist gut though!

Oh well. I grabbed quite a few vocab words from the Assimil lesson and loaded them into
my Assimil deck in Anki, and the "useful phrases" from the other site and loaded them
into another deck, which all in all should keep me busy for a few days. I haven't
started on Swahili just yet, but it's still on the agenda. Of course, I should also
give Italian at least a few minutes of my time so I get a little practice there as
well, but I can probably just listen to a podcast and call it gut.
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mikonai
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 Message 5 of 8
03 January 2013 at 8:14pm | IP Logged 
I originally had plans to log pretty much every day, and what happens? I come down with
a case of gastroenteritis, which knocked me out literally all day. I couldn't even
focus well enough to read through an Assimil lesson, or listen to it. Even today I
don't feel brilliant, so I think I'll take it easy instead of trying to catch up, and
just do the one lesson for today.

Furthermore, I'd sort of forgotten, but from Sunday to Thursday I'll be off on a ski
trip with some friends. I'll try to get something done every day, but at the very least
I don't expect to be able to log anything during that time. It'll probably be something
like a 6-hour car ride, so I can probably get some work done on the way there and back.
I don't know about while I'm there though: there's going to be about 20 people crammed
into a condo (because we're all poor college students), which means I may or may not
ever find any spot to do much language work. I'll certainly try, but odds are I won't
get much pronunciation practice, at least -- too many people around. Alas...
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 Message 6 of 8
14 January 2013 at 1:28am | IP Logged 
Schnitzel teammate here to say: Hope you're feeling better now. Gute Besserung! (That's actually "Get well soon", so maybe not needed now. All the best to you with your studies.
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 Message 7 of 8
14 January 2013 at 9:05am | IP Logged 
Hujambo mikonai.

Niambie ukihitaji mssada kwa Kiswahili. Pengine naweza kukusaidia. Na ukihitaji rasilimali ya Kiswahili, mimi husikia
kwamba tovuti hii - http://mwanasimba.online.fr/E_TABLE.htm ni salihi kwa mtu yeyote anayejifunza Kiswahili.


Translation:

What's up mikonai.

Let me know if you need help with Swahili. Perhaps I may be of assistance. And if you're looking for Swahili resources,
I've always felt that this website - http://mwanasimba.online.fr/E_TABLE.htm is really useful for anyone studying Swahili.
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mikonai
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 Message 8 of 8
07 February 2013 at 11:48pm | IP Logged 
Gasp! I sort of drop off the face of the earth for a while, and I come back to these
encouraging posts from other HTLAL'ers!

Unfortunately school's started by now, and I haven't really gotten back to my language
learning. I still have a fairly light load, but I haven't made time yet to get back to my
studies... But it's not too late, right? I hope this week to get back on track, or at
least start my way in that direction. That is, if school doesn't slow me down too much.


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