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napoleon
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 Message 9 of 152
14 February 2013 at 10:33pm | IP Logged 
The letter that youre having trouble with in aisha is actually a ya. However, since it
has a hamza, you dont draw the two dots below it as you would were it a normal ya.
Hope that helps.
Best of luck with your studies!
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Zireael
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 Message 10 of 152
15 February 2013 at 3:02pm | IP Logged 
Ok, entered all my words into Anki. There's 50 cards in the deck and I need to separate numbers from everything else.

EDIT: Ok, done.

Also, where do I find unwovelled dictionaries or wordlists? The Madina Arabic site has wovelled words throughout, while Sarah's advice was 'just ignore all that stuff' and she's having me read and write unwovelled words (which I think is better)

Edited by Zireael on 15 February 2013 at 3:26pm



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 Message 11 of 152
15 February 2013 at 7:56pm | IP Logged 
Okay, somebody on HTLAL directed me to Quizlet.com, where I found neat flashcards for the Medinah book I'm using. That's how I realized I'd missed some words when typing the log - they are now where they should be. I also added them to my Anki deck.

My Anki deck is now 56 and Anki says 48% of that is 'Unseen'. There are some words which give me a lot of grief 'cause I can't recognize them. I tweaked the settings so that 'Again' has a time interval of 10 mins and 'Good' a time interval of 30 mins. The 1-min. interval just annoyed me.

Edited by Zireael on 15 February 2013 at 8:05pm



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 Message 12 of 152
16 February 2013 at 10:03am | IP Logged 
Time to learn Arabic chat alphabet, also known as Arabish or Araby, since Sarah often uses Windows Messenger, which has no support for Arabic language.

Also, no lesson this Monday, Sarah just left me a message on FB. Drat, I'll have to wait until next Monday...

Meanwhile, how do I move or copy my cards into a sub-deck?

EDIT: Anki problem solved. And Sarah just messaged me that she might find time for a lesson on Monday.

New phrase
sanabqa ala itisal سنبقى على يتيسال keep in touch



Edited by Zireael on 24 February 2013 at 12:54pm



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 Message 13 of 152
17 February 2013 at 1:38pm | IP Logged 
Plugged the Yemeni Arabic keyboard support into my Windows languages and made a chart of the keys on a sheet of paper.

Then I remembered Sarah had asked me about a friend of mine who has an Arabic name (but who's not Arabic and doesn't know Arabic)...

The result? My first complete sentences in Arabic.

بتنة لا تفعم العربية

ابو بنتة لا يفعم العربية

(Sarah fixed a few typos in tafham, yafham and abu)

Of course, that means I entered two new words in Anki...

Edited by Zireael on 17 February 2013 at 1:40pm



Zireael
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 Message 14 of 152
18 February 2013 at 1:48pm | IP Logged 
Lesson 3, 18 Feb 2012

Turns out I was wrong, Man haða wasn't today's topic. It was verb conjugation.

It seems that by default, verbs are given in 3rd sg masc form. In 1st sg, the ya is dropped. For feminine forms, ya is replaced by ta. In plural and dual, ya stays. In 1st pl., ya is replaced by nun.

Homework: conjugate all verbs from the list which do not end in a vowel.

New words
The order is IPA pronunciation - Arabic spelling - meaning.

Yaðhab    يذهب he goes
Yodʒeb    يوجب he likes
Yasaal    يسال he asks
Yadros    يدرس he studies
Yatakalam    يتكلم he talks/speaks
Yanam      ينم he sleeps
Yakol      يكل he eats
Yamshi     يمشي he walks
Yofaker    يفكر he thinks
Yaqraa     يقرا he reads
Yaktob     يكتب he writes
Yaraa       َيري he sees
Yasmaa       يسم he hears
Yaqool      يقول he says
Yorsel     يرسل he sends
Yastaqbel يستقبل he receives

Ana yodʒeboni...   انا يوجبني I like...



EDIT: Also, for those who want to read Arabic in a better font - my log at UniLang forum.


Edited by Zireael on 24 February 2013 at 12:56pm



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 Message 15 of 152
18 February 2013 at 5:16pm | IP Logged 
I don't know about pronunciation. I just add them to the back of the card after <br> (line break). If I wanted to make reverse cards, I'd export the deck to a plain text file and replace all <br> with a tab, copy the whole text to Calc, then concatenate the appropriate cells and copy the right columns to a plain text file, save it and import it in Anki.

Edited by Takato on 18 February 2013 at 7:22pm



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 Message 16 of 152
19 February 2013 at 10:43am | IP Logged 
@ Takato - well, if I added the pronunciation to the back of the card, it'd make reading them a child's play. I need to get used to Arabic words, unvowelled and without that weird stage in the middle, where I see h...m and wonder what the vowel is.

So I made an additional field which only shows up in edit mode...

Some more sentences in Arabic from yesterday evening:
أنا تعجبني اللغة العربية

انا يوجبني سارة

Sarah made the second one سارة تعجبني, I wonder why - can تعجبني only take inanimate objects or something?

انا تعلم كلملة جديد



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