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02 February 2013 at 3:31am | IP Logged 
How prevalent are dialects these days in Italy? Let's say I want to vacation in Venice, Milan, Rome, Naples, Florence, or somewhere in Sicily. Would I have any trouble in those places with just the standard Italian? Which dialects are still spoken the most? Do all of the younger Italians speak the standard?
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02 February 2013 at 12:14pm | IP Logged 
There's no problem in using standard Italian, and local pronunciations are easily understandable. Almost all Italians know the standard language. But dialects are very different, and if Italians speak between themselves in a dialect, you don't understand what they say (just can hear some keywords, but not the meaning).

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02 February 2013 at 12:23pm | IP Logged 
As a rule of thumb, beside the many dialects and the few (minor?) languages still present
in the territory (e.g. "Sardinian"), "everybody" in Italy speaks standard Italian. Weird,
eh?

Sarcasm apart, it goes without saying that old people, especially those coming from the
rural areas, might prefer expressing themselves in the local dialect/idiom (that might be
their first language, after all). But hey, no worries, as long as you can speak proper
Italian, it's very unlikely that you will face hard times communicating with people,
especially if you plan to visit Rome, Milan, Florence, etc.

Edited by Fabrizio on 02 February 2013 at 12:33pm

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02 February 2013 at 6:28pm | IP Logged 
On Italian tv /RAI you can hear the Roman dialect (Romanesco) [in movies and sitcoms],
Venetian [in comedy programs], Napolitan [in songs].

While most Italians understand even the thickest romanesco,
foreigners may face problems trying to watch a movie in Romanesco.
At best, it sounds like muffled Italian (that is as Italian spoken with a hot potato in mouth).

Here in Istria (Croatia), the local Italian minority does not speak standard Italian at all, they do understand it, of course, but they use their Istrian dialect (a viariant of the Venetian language) in speech, even if you ask them something in standard Italian, they will answer you in dialect. Because of political/historical reasons, they identify themselves with Istria, and not with Rome or Tuscany.

The similar situation is found in Corsica ...People will answer you in Corsican and not in standard Italian.


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03 February 2013 at 4:24pm | IP Logged 
Medulin wrote:
The similar situation is found in Corsica ...People will answer you in
Corsican and not in standard Italian.

I guess you mean Sardinia. In Corse people will mostly answer you in Français.
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03 February 2013 at 5:32pm | IP Logged 
Medulin wrote:
While most Italians understand even the thickest romanesco,
foreigners may face problems trying to watch a movie in Romanesco.


True, I did.
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03 February 2013 at 6:10pm | IP Logged 
sillygoose1 wrote:
Do all of the younger Italians speak the standard?

As others here have said, you'll be fine with standard Italian.

I can't speak for all of Italy, but I can tell you a bit about Turin and surrounding
areas. You'll hear the dialect (some form of Piedmontese) being spoken here and there,
but everyone also speaks standard Italian.

Of my friends that are around my age or younger (I'm 50), none of them speak
Piedmontese. They all are familiar with it, most have parents that spoke it, but they
themselves don't speak it, unless they've become interested specifically in the
language for whatever reason (usually nationalistic or ethnic pride, to tell the
truth). There's also somewhat of a recent surge in interest in minority languages, and
invariably, my friends that don't speak Piedmontese now wish that they did.

So, again, don't worry about dialects as far as being able to communicate. But
do take advantage of hearing them, getting exposed to them, and maybe even
picking up a little bit. Some are quite beautiful. All have their value.

R.
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Edited by hrhenry on 03 February 2013 at 6:10pm

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08 February 2013 at 10:19pm | IP Logged 
sillygoose1 wrote:
How prevalent are dialects these days in Italy? Let's say I want
to vacation in Venice, Milan, Rome, Naples, Florence, or somewhere in Sicily. Would I
have any trouble in those places with just the standard Italian? Which dialects are
still spoken the most? Do all of the younger Italians speak the standard?


Even when I went to Italy as a child with my parents and stayed with my Mum's family in
a tiny little hamlet, everyone spoke Italian to me (which is just as well as my
piacentino is non-existent). I don't recall ever having any difficulties.

I've heard the Venetian dialect in vivo, but that's about the only one that I've
heard up close (and even then it wasn't directed at me). I can't speak for Sicily, but
I'd be surprised if you had any issues with Italian. The last few times I've been, the
only place I've heard dialect has been on TV.

Now "interesting" pronunciations, that's a different story ...



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