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Beyond C2 and diminishing returns

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betelgeuzah
Diglot
Groupie
Finland
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51 posts - 82 votes 
Speaks: Finnish*, English
Studies: Japanese, Italian

 
 Message 17 of 18
07 February 2013 at 9:55pm | IP Logged 
I'll start making a vocab list of unknown words I come across and want to memorize... Since I don't think it makes sense to learn words I'll never encounter (and thus need). One exception to this are the common household items which I don't think I will learn on my own but what I consider absolute necessities to know when claiming to be native-fluent. Is there anything else?

On top of the vocab list I'll also buy the pronunciation course and work on that.. plus try to make a rule out of listening to more informal spoken English. As someone pointed out, it's my achilles' heel.

Thanks for explaining unbeknownst to me by the way! I felt like something was wrong, but couldn't figure out what it is.

Edited by betelgeuzah on 07 February 2013 at 9:56pm

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s_allard
Triglot
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Canada
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Speaks: French*, English, Spanish
Studies: Polish

 
 Message 18 of 18
08 February 2013 at 1:39am | IP Logged 
I believe that in addition to doing all the things suggested here, when you get to a certain level, you need a private tutor. This could take the form of a language exchange buddy of course. There is a fundamental reason for this: you can't correct yourself.

You are at a C1 level or good B2. You speak quite fluently and you feel relatively comfortable. You do not hear your mistakes. The only to move forward is to have someone correct you. Someone who can catch all those details that you can never see yourself. And then, just as importantly, show you how to say things in a more idiomatic fashion.

This latter point is what really will take you up a notch. A competent tutor is the only way to break away from the bad habits and the influence of your first language. Once you've worked with a tutor, there's no way you'll go back.
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