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| albysky Triglot Senior Member Italy lang-8.com/1108796Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4188 days ago 287 posts - 393 votes  Speaks: Italian*, English, German | Message 1 of 7 10 February 2013 at 7:43pm | IP Logged |
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Would you suggest Assimil or Teach yourself to begin with russian ?
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4507 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 2 of 7 10 February 2013 at 9:43pm | IP Logged |
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Not to toot my own horn, but...
This is my response, in detail, hope it's useful to you! (note: I made this vid ages ago) Edited by tarvos on 10 February 2013 at 9:44pm 5 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Ogrim Heptaglot Senior Member France Joined 4439 days ago 991 posts - 1896 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, French, Romansh, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Catalan, Latin, Greek, Romanian | Message 3 of 7 11 February 2013 at 10:12am | IP Logged |
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I basically agree with tarvos' take on it. If you are a total beginner, go for Assimil.
However, as tarvos also points out, Assimil is not strong on explaining grammar. For some people that does not really matter, but personally I need to understand grammar properly. I am combining Assimil with Colloquial Russian, and I find that they supplement each other very nicely. Colloquial gives you "longish" texts and detailed grammar explanations. For a total beginner it is challenging, so you might prefer to just go with Assimil to start with - but I certainly think Colloquial is a great resource as well. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4507 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 4 of 7 11 February 2013 at 11:56am | IP Logged |
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I think the newer Colloquial is more like TY. The older Colloquials are excellent. At
least regarding Russian - the 1997 one is out of this world good on grammar. As for grammar - I don't care that much if it's Germanic or Romance, because I have good reference points. For Russian it's more important, although I don't need the concept of cases to be explained for example (German and Latin under my belt). Assimil works very well for languages that are somewhat close to something you know - it's ideal for Romanian for me. It's a bit harder for Breton, f.e. I have not tried out my Hebrew Assimil yet. Edited by tarvos on 11 February 2013 at 1:27pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Ogrim Heptaglot Senior Member France Joined 4439 days ago 991 posts - 1896 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, French, Romansh, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Catalan, Latin, Greek, Romanian | Message 5 of 7 11 February 2013 at 3:34pm | IP Logged |
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tarvos, is there a newer version of Colloquial Russian than the 1997 one? That is the one I have, it indicates being the 2nd edition of a book first published in 1993. Mine is a reprint from 2001.
I have seen newer versions of Colloquial for other languages, and there I agree, they are more like TY. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4507 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 6 of 7 11 February 2013 at 3:43pm | IP Logged |
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I believe there is, yes. There is a 2009 version. But I don't own it, so I cannot tell
you how good it is. For the record; I have used Assimil's Russian (English base), and the newest TY and the 1997 Colloquial as my introductory textbooks, supplemented with a bit of Ruslan (which I thought was awful) and a few other things here and there for private lessons. Edited by tarvos on 11 February 2013 at 3:44pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| albysky Triglot Senior Member Italy lang-8.com/1108796Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4188 days ago 287 posts - 393 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German | Message 7 of 7 12 February 2013 at 12:29pm | IP Logged |
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Thanks ! yes I think I'll begin with assimil supplemented by a good grammer book
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