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 emk Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5318 days ago 2615 posts - 8806 votes  Speaks: English*, FrenchB2 Studies: Spanish, Ancient Egyptian Personal Language Map | Message 2 of 4 18 February 2013 at 3:42pm | IP Logged | ||
Ancient Egyptian is an Afro-Asiatic language, distantly related to Arabic and Hebrew. Like Arabic and Hebrew, it's mostly written with consonants, and the vowels are left up to the reader (or in the case of Egyptian, ignored by modern readers). For French speakers, Assimil's L'Égyptien hiéroglyphique is a great beginner course. It should be available with an English base within the next year or two. For English speakers, How to Read Egyptian Hieroglyphs: A Step-by-Step Guide to Teach Yourself, Revised Edition is pretty popular, though it focuses more on funeral inscriptions and less on the actual language. If you're more interested in linguistics, I recommend Loprieno's Ancient Egyptian: A linguistic introduction, which is both comprehensive and excellent. For something fun, check out the "hieroglyph edition" of The Tale of Peter Rabbit. You can also hear some spoken Egyptian in the movies Stargate and The Mummy. Finally, check out my Dropbox folder, which contains Anki 2 decks for the basic signs and for the first few lessons of the French-based Assimil course. There's also a PDF with all the common phonetic signs. 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| morinkhuur Triglot Groupie Germany Joined 4463 days ago 79 posts - 157 votes Speaks: German*, Latin, English Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Arabic (Egyptian), Arabic (Maghribi) | Message 3 of 4 22 February 2013 at 12:40am | IP Logged | ||
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Do learners of Ancient Egyptian generally use the reconstructed pronunciation? Do the courses teach it? Or do
they maybe work with an approximation? When I see Ancient Egyptian transcribed, it always looks somewhat like this: smt.w pr.3.st qkl.w srt which seems pretty hard to pronounce. (yes, I know about the problem with the vowels etc...) I once read an interesting explanation of the reconstructed pronunciation which said that AE (being a cousin to Arabic and Hebrew) actually sounded quite guttural, but I suppose learners wouldn't put in the effort to learn such a difficult sound system for a dead language? Or do they actually do that? Is there maybe an accepted "school pronunciation" as there is for Latin and Ancient Greek? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| emk Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5318 days ago 2615 posts - 8806 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchB2 Studies: Spanish, Ancient Egyptian Personal Language Map | Message 4 of 4 22 February 2013 at 2:28am | IP Logged | ||
Since I've never taken a university course in Egyptian, this is all hearsay. But as far as I know, few people bother to pronounce the guttural consonants. (Most people just substitute the closest consonant in their L1.) And nobody except a tiny handful of specialists cares about the vowels. If you're interested in the reconstructed vowels, check out the Loprieno book I mentioned above, which has an entire chapter on the subject. If you just want to hear the guttural consonants, pick up the Assimil CDs. These use a full set of consonants and dummy vowels. In fact, I found the Assimil recordings surprisingly useful, because they helped me link up the hieroglyphs with actual sounds, which made it vastly easier to remember all those vocabulary words without vowels. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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