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lorinth
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 Message 89 of 408
19 June 2013 at 9:19am | IP Logged 
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Started reading a novella called 《挖下去就是美国》, by 曹寇. What a wonderful title!

--

Finished the ChinesePod lesson about 路边摊 and started another one about 地震.

The ChinesePod site says it takes about 120 lessons to graduate from "intermediate" to
"upper intermediate". At my current rate, that would mean over 2 years. Never mind. I'm
not in a hurry.

I'm slowly trying to put in place a routine as far as ChinesePod lessons are concerned.
Routines are the language learner's best friends! Or, let's say, second best friend,
after pleasure.

Currently, I consider that a lesson is "finished" when:
- I have listened at least once (most often two or three times) to the full podcast,
i.e. the dialogue + comments in Chinese and English
- I have listened to the dialogue split by sentences: this is always necessary for me
to understand the full dialogue
- I have listened to the dialogue until I understand it in full
- I have listened several times to the "Review" part, including the vocab and the other
sentences
- I have done some parroting/shadowing
- I have taken the final test

I don't read the grammar and I don't try to actively study the vocabulary: in general,
there are not many new words for me at that level. Plus, I intend to use those podcasts
mainly to improve my listening comprehension.

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Daily vocabulary review: Anki decks (HSK4 and 5 deck; character deck), Skritter queue
(characters), Pleco (random vocabulary).

FI

Cleared my vocabulary queue in LWT, then imported and read a short article about
keskusteluista Suomen ulkopolitiikasta, jotka järjestettiin presidentin
kesäasunnolla
(discussions about Finland's foreign policy, organised in the
president's summer residence).


Edited by lorinth on 19 June 2013 at 9:23am

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lorinth
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 Message 90 of 408
20 June 2013 at 9:13am | IP Logged 
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Continued the activities I had started yesterday, i.e. reading 曹寇's 《挖下去就是美国》
and listening to the ChinesePod lesson about 地震.

I finally found an online spoken version of 余华's novel 《活着》. As I've read it in
Chinese a few months ago, I decided to try a L-R exercise: listen to the Chinese
version while reading the translation in French. I did that for about 45'. According to
the "canonical L-R method", the conditions were not ideal: I have the impression that
the exercise would be more productive if my translation was less literary and more
word-for-word. And above all, I also have the impression that the exercise would be
more useful if I could do that for long stretches of time. Unfortunately, I very seldom
have long stretches of time to devote to language learning, just several short 5-15'
bursts spread over a day. Anyway, it was an interesting ride and I'd like to continue
doing L-R, if only because I'm curious about the effect it might have.

Usual vocab routine: Anki decks (HSK4 and 5 deck; character deck), Skritter queue
(characters), Pleco (random vocabulary).

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lorinth
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 Message 91 of 408
21 June 2013 at 8:53am | IP Logged 
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While browsing, I came across the 新唐人电视台 (New Tang Dynasty Television). It is a
Chinese language, online TV broadcaster. According to Wikipedia, it was founded by some
Falun Gong practitioners, but who cares, the important thing for us students is that
there are transcripts for their news, which makes that site a wonderful place to (try
and) get acquainted with full speed TV Chinese. If it matters to you, their reports
about general current events do not seem more biased than those of any other
broadcaster, as far as I can tell.

Their site

[quavering]I say: today's language learners are spoiled.[/quavering]

我看了一个关于法国南部的洪水广播。 然后他们还谈了在巴西发生的群众抗争。
(I watched the news about floods in Southern France and demonstrations in
Brazil
).

--

Continued the activities I had started yesterday, i.e. reading 曹寇's 《挖下去就是美国》
and listening to the ChinesePod lesson about 地震.

Usual vocab routine: Anki decks (HSK4 and 5 deck; character deck), Skritter queue
(characters), Pleco (random vocabulary).


ES

Fui a la librería española y me compré una novela de Javier Marías titulada "Corazón
tan blanco". Nunca he leído cualquier libro de dicho autor. Lo compré porque un amigo
que lo había leído en francés me aconsejó leerlo. Sin embargo, antes de empezar a leer
el libro de Marías, quisiera acabar de leer "Regulus" en latín.

FI

In LWT, cleared my vocabulary queue, then imported and read a short article about
huonosta taloustilanteesta Suomessa.

I also listened to the rest of today's news while reading the transcript.

LA

In LWT, cleared my vocabulary queue, then imported and read a short text from the
"Gesta Romanorum", called "De modo temptationis et peritia".

After reading it in Latin, I found a translation in Google books, so I could check
whether I had understood correctly.

The translation.

I listened to the nuntios latinos while reading the transcript.

Continued reading Regulus.

And, although, by then, I was tired, I also read a bit of Oerberg's Roma Aeterna, cap.
XLV (that's Livy I.56-57). Much to my amazement, I came to the conclusion that Regulus
is almost as hard as Ab Urbe Condita, as far as I'm concerned.
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lorinth
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 Message 92 of 408
24 June 2013 at 9:10am | IP Logged 
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As after every weekend, not much to mention, as far as language learning is concerned.
But for the sake of completeness of personal stats:
- I faithfully studied my different vocabulary queues (characters, HSK words, random
words)
- I went on reading 曹寇's 《挖下去就是美国》
- I started a new ChinesePod lesson comparing 李小龙和成龙,两名功夫之王。(the two kings of
Kung Fu).

--

Although it may be too soon to tell with certainty, it seems that Skritter is so much
better than Anki to learn characters that it's almost embarrassing. I may soon regret
that I didn't start Skritter drills sooner. Of course, the reason is not Anki itself:
Anki is so versatile that you can configure it to reproduce the process used by
Skritter to study characters (and many other things). It's just that Skritter does that
out of the box, as it's designed for Chinese. Second, I come to Skritter after having
learnt a lot with Anki, so the comparison is not fair. However, my first impression
after a few weeks is that I do learn more characters faster, and they tend to stick
much better.

On the downside, Skritter is rather expensive, and making it work on an Android phone
is not obvious.

I feed Skritter with:
- characters in my Anki deck that I tend to forget over and over again
- unknown or doubtful characters while reading 曹寇's 《挖下去就是美国》
- a batch of characters taken from Patrick Zein's frequency list. I've started from the
bottom (char # 3000).

I go on studying *words* with Anki and Pleco, though.

Edited by lorinth on 24 June 2013 at 3:30pm

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lorinth
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 Message 93 of 408
25 June 2013 at 9:07am | IP Logged 
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Reviewed my different vocabulary queues (characters, HSK words, random words)

Went on reading 曹寇's 《挖下去就是美国》.

Continued working on the ChinesePod lesson concerning 李小龙和成龙 (Bruce Lee vs Jackie
Chan). Then, as it was fairly easy, I finished this one.

Read part of an article on the strained relationship between Turkey and the EU.

On NTDTV, I watched a video about "超级月亮" and read the transcript. 因为月亮很接近地球,所
以它看起来比平时大多了,亮多了。(As the moon comes closer to the earth, it looks bigger
and brighter than usual
).

On an online Chinese bookstore, I've ordered spoken versions of two of Yu Hua's novels:
活着 and 许三观卖血记. I've read both of them in Chinese already, so the spoken versions
are intended for L-R.

LA

Read the news in Ephemeris. Cleared the vocabulary queue in LWT. In "Regulus", read the
chapter about the wise king who only orders his subjects to do what they want to do
anyway.

FI

Cleared the vocabulary queue in LWT.

Listened to/read the news in selkouutiset.
Surprising news: varoitus helteestä - while we're freezing further South in
Europe, it's unusually hot in Finland, even in Lapland. I should be in a
kesämökki, bathing, having sauna, drinking Lapin Kulta, eating
muikkuja and being eaten alive by hyttyset while slowly recovering from
Juhannus.
Unfortunate but hardly surprising news: ainakin 13 ihmistä on kuollut juhannuksen
aikana
, this year's Juhannus festival has claimed at least 13 victims.

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lorinth
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 Message 94 of 408
26 June 2013 at 7:40am | IP Logged 
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Did the usual vocabulary work (characters, HSK words, random words).

Went on reading 曹寇's 《挖下去就是美国》.

On NTDTV, I watched a video saying that 纽约市卫生署对餐馆进行食品卫生检查 and wondering 为什么
有些餐馆把等级标牌藏起来?
(why do certain NY restaurants hide the sign bearing their hygiene rating?).

Watched a series of short Flash animation movies with bilingual subtitles about aspects
of the traditional Chinese culture. The part about 尊师重教 (repect for the teacher and
the teaching) made for an interesting contrast with the poor wretch that is the
narrator of 《挖下去就是美国》, a teacher who starts his confessions with "对不起,我是一名教
师。为此,我感到羞愧。" (Excuse me, I'm a teacher. And I'm ashamed about it.)

FI

In LWT, imported and read a short article about phosphor pollution in the Baltic waters
caused by Polish fertiliser plants.

LA

In Regulus, read the parts about the vainglorious man, the drunkard and the
businessman. Dug out the French version of the story to check my undestanding.
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lorinth
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 Message 95 of 408
27 June 2013 at 9:02am | IP Logged 
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Apart from the usual vocabulary reviews (HSK, random vocabulary, characters), I
finished reading 曹寇's 《挖下去就是美国》. A great novella. It starts like an inward
looking, subtle description of the dull life of a weak teacher and his failed wedding.
And then, little by little, it becomes a dark, pathetic drama. I don't know whether Cao
Kou has been translated in other languages. There's no Wikipedia page about him in
French or English - or in Chinese, for that matter. According to
chineseshortstories.com, he's supposed to belong to a
so-called “中间代”, i.e. intermediary generation of writers, who have only recently come
to
fame, because they were "squeezed" between the more well-known “70后” writers, who
emerged in the late 70s, and the more provocative authors (like Han Han) that were
published after 2000.

While driving, I listened extensively to Radio Taiwan International and didn't
understand much. In fact, because a lot of cognates were used, I understood that the
subject was 卡塔尔 (Qatar) and surrounding countries. But don't ask a report from me. I
also listened to a few audio tracks of those Flash animation movies about interesting
aspects of the traditional Chinese culture I mentioned yesterday. Of course, as I was
driving, I couldn't even glance at the subtitles.

Edited by lorinth on 27 June 2013 at 12:48pm

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lorinth
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 Message 96 of 408
28 June 2013 at 7:44am | IP Logged 
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Did the usual vocabulary work (characters, HSK words, random words).

On ndtv.com, listened to a sad news story about 被交警追赶的一名工人。可能因为他怕警察实 施暴
力,
他跳入河中而淹死了。

Started a ChinesePod lesson about 装修房子的时候会很吵。

Started reading a short story called《总之还要住下去》, written by 北岛.

LA

In Regulus, read the parts about the lamplighter and the geographer.

Edited by lorinth on 28 June 2013 at 7:45am



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