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lorinth
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 Message 145 of 408
13 September 2013 at 9:13am | IP Logged 
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As 中秋节 (mid-autumn festival) is approaching, it seems fitting to start reading 巴
金's《秋》. Again, it's the abridged version published by Sinolingua.

I read an article about Russia's proposal to 实施国际监督 concerning
化学武器存放和后续销毁 (implement international supervision for the storage and the
subsequent destruction of chemical weapons).

While many people are trying to devise methods to learn to read Chinese faster, I've
noticed that, in my case, silly as it may sound, it's always useful to read slower.
That is, I have to be strict about:

- reading whole sentences and the whole article (or a big part of it) carefully, paying
attention to each character;
- not looking up the vocabulary immediately;
- and not trusting my brain when it screams: "Gosh, you've forgotten the
meaning/pronunciation of that character/word *again*!"

By simply taking the time and paying more attention, I've discovered that that
(admittedly short) article could become very clear, with just a handful of doubtful
words, and two unknown characters.

I immediately tested that profound piece of wisdom by reading another article, about
the Syrian government (mostly positive) reaction to this idea.

Started a ChinesePod lesson about employees betting on the reasons why their boss is
angry.

Usual vocab drills with Anki (words and sentences), Pleco (words) and Skritter
(characters).
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cacue23
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 Message 146 of 408
13 September 2013 at 3:08pm | IP Logged 
lorinth wrote:
Thanks for the encouragement cacue23! I wouldn't dare to say that I'm familiar with the
family tree: there are so many proper names and detailed kinship words that I still have
to refer to the handy family tree chart that is displayed on the first page of each
volume. I definitely intend to read the real deal one of these days (I may try 王强's 圈子
圈套 II before that, though, because I've already read vol. I).


LOL, kinship words are monsters. There are just too many of them, and they differ according to parts of China (in "Spring", you are looking at the Southwestern part of China in the 1920s). I'd rather avoid them myself. I certainly wouldn't call my father's female cousin of a different surname as 孃孃. Just try to get familiar with names and ranks, which I'm aware is quite difficult for you, but you could always just remember the important ones. For example, anything after the fourth grandson of the patriarch merely appear in the novel and are insignificant. The first grandson of course has a wife and a son, as well as a past love whom he couldn't marry because of some dispute among members of the previous generation. As for granddaughters, the first one died before the series begin, so the really important ones are the second, third, and fourth. And there is the cousin of the family who either in "春" or "秋" officially becomes the fiancee of the second grandson of the 高 clan. In "秋", the relationship is much more complicated with the addition of quite a lot of cousins.
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lorinth
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 Message 147 of 408
14 September 2013 at 10:17am | IP Logged 
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Read an article saying that Voyager 1 had definitively left the solar system (旅行者1号探
测器已废除太阳系), and another one saying the UK industry definitely didn't want to leave
the EU (英国约八成企业反对英国退出欧盟).

Article 1

Article 2


Kept on reading 巴金的《秋》。

Listened some more to the ChinesePod lesson about employees betting on their boss (this
one is harder for me).

Usual vocab drills with Anki, Pleco and Skritter.
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lorinth
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 Message 148 of 408
17 September 2013 at 9:27am | IP Logged 
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Read part of a rather difficult and longish article about 习近平主席's idea of creating
a 丝绸路之经济带 (Silk Road economic zone).

The article.

Read 巴金的《秋》up to chapter 9/29. I'm finding this 3rd part a bit harder, because of
the accumulated vocabulary that is not always explained again, and because of the
number of chengyus or the old-fashioned (?) speech of certain characters.

Usual vocab drills. The number of reviews with Anki is steadily decreasing because I'm
slowly phasing-out the use of this programme, which I've been using for years, and
replacing it with Pleco. Anki is very powerful and versatile, you can use it for any
language, or in fact anything that has to be remembered, but I've never got the hang of
version 2 and its idiosyncrasies. On the other hand Pleco wins on all fronts as a fully
integrated platform specifically designed for learning Chinese. I will soon officially
kill my Chinese package on Anki, put an end to the overlap, and simplify my life.
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lorinth
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 Message 149 of 408
18 September 2013 at 10:14am | IP Logged 
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Read an article about Belgium grumbling because the NSA has been spying on Belgium's
main telco: 比利时政府谴责美国窃听比利时电信.

And another about China also grumbling about the attitude of Japan in the military
sector and in general: 中方敦促日方以实际行动取信于亚洲邻国和国 际社会.

Article 1

Article 2

Read 巴金的《秋》up to chapter 14/29.

Finished the ChinesePod lesson about employees betting on why their boss is angry.

Transcribed (typed in an editor on my phone; handwriting is certainly better but I was
in my bed and it was late) a short video about Chinese painting.

Usual vocab drills.
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lorinth
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 Message 150 of 408
19 September 2013 at 9:14am | IP Logged 
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My most productive time yesterday was in a corridor, while I was waiting for the music
class of my younger kid to finish.

I read 巴金的《秋》(abridged version) up to chapter 17/29.

I started studying a ChinesePod lesson about 中秋节的月饼 (mooncakes). By the way, I've
never tried those famous mooncakes. Hey, it's today! Maybe I should head for the local
Chinese supermarket, see if I can buy some. In addition, the weather is clear today so
I could invite my wife and the kids to watch the rising full moon. (I have endless
excuses to insert some Chinese in the daily routine).

Usual vocab drills with Pleco, Skritter and Anki.

中秋节快乐!
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Stelle
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 Message 151 of 408
19 September 2013 at 12:16pm | IP Logged 
lorinth wrote:
ZH

My most productive time yesterday was in a corridor, while I was waiting for the music
class of my younger kid to finish.

I read 巴金的《秋》(abridged version) up to chapter 17/29.

I started studying a ChinesePod lesson about 中秋节的月饼 (mooncakes). By the way, I've
never tried those famous mooncakes. Hey, it's today! Maybe I should head for the local
Chinese supermarket, see if I can buy some. In addition, the weather is clear today so
I could invite my wife and the kids to watch the rising full moon. (I have endless
excuses to insert some Chinese in the daily routine).

Usual vocab drills with Pleco, Skritter and Anki.

中秋节快乐!

I wanted to like mooncakes. I really did. I think they have pretty much the best name of any dessert. But I can't
stand them! So sad... We eat various types of Chinese food all the time (real Chinese, not "American Chinese"),
and they're probably my favourite cuisines - but I simply cannot learn to enjoy Chinese desserts and sweets!
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lorinth
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 Message 152 of 408
19 September 2013 at 12:27pm | IP Logged 
Quote:
I wanted to like mooncakes. I really did. I think they have pretty much the best
name of any dessert. But I can't
stand them! So sad...


They do have a bad reputation. In the ChinesePod lesson I'm studying, a character even
says something like "我每年都要扔掉好多" (every year, I have to throw away quite a lot of
them). But maybe it's just because he receives too many 月饼盒. Ah, but I want to try
anyway :-) I'll tell you tomorrow (if I can find some of them here, that is).


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