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Via Diva
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 Message 801 of 812
11 August 2015 at 2:03pm | IP Logged 
The replacement is already in its place with all the magnets used to keep it hanging:

I knew I won't sit through this third lesson. I didn't expect to give up so fast though:

There are 6 exercises like this, and even though I know for a fact that they work, I just can't deal with it. I expected Swype on my phone to help me a lot, but its dictionary doesn't even have mlčet! It's bloody exhausting to type all the diacritics there otherwise. I already read about the wonderful Czech keyboard layout, probably I just have to install it here on the laptop and silently hope that the Swype dictionary will be expanded one day, or that I won't have to type much from my phone. But I probably will have to, if Czech gets serious one day (aka if I won't drop it shortly after this 6WC is over). I am kind of glad that Russian wasn't Latinized during the last century, because all the projects had excessive diacritics, which now looks like pure evil to me. Of course it saves space. But then we need better keyboards...

L-Ring Herr aller DInge still.

For two days I was forgetting to mention that I noticed this Greek course on the speakASAP site. This is exactly what I needed... last June. Right now I can't afford anymore wanderlust. Yesterday I had to skim through my whole log on the original HTLAL, and while I was doing that I found this:
yours truly on 30th of May, 2015 wrote:
Couldn't sleep because insomnia, so I had to think about stuff to pass the time, and I thought about languages (surprise, surprise!) and I've come to think that my goals are somewhat unrealistic. These seven languages (I include English) aren't all the languages that I would like to learn, I sort of wander between Finnish and Hungarian, also Yiddish sounds interesting, but even without that I doubt I can ever learn these seven languages even with my rather humble expectations. To think of it straight, I only really need English and German, the rest, of course, won't be in vain, but whether I can use these languages for something useful or entertaining is a good question.
I learn languages because they interest me, and that is, I say, quite a weak motivation if consider that my interests are hardly constant (and you could've seen that already). Apart from being surprised both by choice and situation, my biggest problem is motivation. Say, right now imagine how my fluent French would sound, but in a few weeks or months I just forget all that for something else.
Also, which is highly unlikely and yet possible, I can go total wanderlust and pick more languages.
Meh. Nerd? Not really. Mad? Oh yes!


I am most definitely rubbish when it comes to planning, am I not?..
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Via Diva
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Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek

 
 Message 802 of 812
12 August 2015 at 2:59pm | IP Logged 
Exactly a year ago I tweeted this:

It's not likely I am going to be that productive today. So far I have only been a total failure:
- tried reading aloud in German something I read two months ago - and all the tries are worse!
- essentially failed to comprehend the 4th lesson of the speakASAP course - be it my dumbness or the failures of the course
- didn't do anything about 3rd lesson except a few brief glances at the table
- didn't activate my Memrise vocabulary
- haven't got the slightest idea of what were people in Český rozhlas Plus talking about up until it was summarized before the end
The only thing I managed to do good today is L-R'ing Herr aller Dinge
Oh, and yesterday I finished Harry Potter a kámen mudrců. I have to admit, I was hugely fed up with the reader, and I honestly don't know what kept me walking, Probably the fact that Voldemort was voiced SO GOOD I understood almost everything he said.
I
will start Harry Potter a Tajemná komnata later this evening.
Well... we all have our ups and downs.

Edited by Via Diva on 12 August 2015 at 3:03pm

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Via Diva
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 Message 803 of 812
13 August 2015 at 2:51pm | IP Logged 
While my studies went almost completely passive, I don't really think that this is so bad. After all, Harry Potter a Tajemná komnata has a lot better reader, so much better that, in fact, I swallowed three chapters at once. Well, he's just a bit too slow,
but isn't that what I need? And Herr aller Dinge is also becoming so interesting that I spent around 160 minutes staring at the German text and listening to the German audio. All hail L-R!
The speakASAP course is a major annoyance. I finally installed the Czech layout, and it's indeed fascinating, but the reason why I did that isn't:

I got nothing right from the first time, and only figured out the 11th all by myself. Because the wonderful authors don't tell where should I put být. I suspect that its position is flexible, but this is not clarified.
Oh, and yes, this is the lesson #6, not 5, because it's useless to do 5th if you don't know the past tense.
I really have to do more active studies.
But when do I ever do what I have to do?..
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Via Diva
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 Message 804 of 812
14 August 2015 at 1:35pm | IP Logged 
My day is planned. I didn't want to write about that this morning, because then I'd definitely not follow it (I guess a rebel inside me is bigger than one can think), but now the most part of this plan is done and there'd be no harm in telling:
1) Český rozhlas Plus + some casual game, count fully because these casual games just keep my hands busy
2) L-Ring Herr aller Dinge, with lots of pauses, count fully for obvious reasons
3) Memrise session, with pauses, usually take less than half an hour PURE study time (as the website counts), IRL it takes me longer, count fully for obvious reasons
4) dealing with the speakASAP course, count fully for obvious reasons
5) random stuff (like listening to more Český rozhlas Plus or to B5 aktuell, handwriting, trying textbooks), counting depends on attention paid, but if I'm cooking I count fully because I just do mechanical stuff which doesn't involve any thinking which could
distract me
6) L-Ring Harry Potter, count fully for obvious reasons
5 and 6 can swap their places, or 5 can double
Plus some music inbetween.
_________
The random stuff from yesterday included handwriting of Sudvěj:

It took me 33 minutes and it looks worse than the previous try:

but, unlike the previous one, it's finished! (you can find all the photos in my Twi.
I have to note that this is actually useful, helps with the understanding a lot. If I heard only some common words before (batistu), I've managed to notice more stuff I should understand without translation. The major problem is, of course, false friends:
Czech čas and rodina DON'T mean Russian chas and rodina...
Harry Potter still feels good, although not unbelievably good. Not sure what to feel about the radio, even German is alien sometimes.
Some funny etymology which I encountered in today's more than two hours of L-Ring Herr aller Dinge:

But, well, Czech can be linked with German too, especially when I type German "Etymologie" to discover that it looks exactly like the Czech "etymologie". The pronunciation has to differ though.
Today's Memrise featured a long review session in which I typed using the Czech keyboard layout. It took LOADS of time. But there's no other way to get used to typing than to type, and to type with ALL THE DIACRITICS.
I had to look up exactly the half of this from the lesson #5:

but, essentially, when you stop to try to understand WHY does by change its form, it's not that hard.
_________
Czech. Makes me too emotional around half a month now.
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Via Diva
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 Message 805 of 812
15 August 2015 at 4:02pm | IP Logged 
Oookay. I figured out what's wrong with the speakASAP course. It requires immersion, listening:
Quote:
Будущее время в чешском языке лучше всего запоминать на слух. Очень часто оно будет созвучно с русским.
Вобще, чешский язык – это тот язык, который нужно учить на повторении чешской речи, на слух.

Well this is no way for me*. I am psychologically deaf when it comes to this.
So that's why I didn't even try to do the exercises. There was no "learn through listening" in their very good German course, so that one was much easier for me (also I wasn't a beginner).
It's time to admit the defeat, stop dreaming about achieving some fluency (I can't say a single sentence in Czech! This might be psychological too, but it doesn't even matter) and get my ass in front of a textbook (not literally, or that won't work either).

Of course, I didn't follow my plan today. I can say to je sobota! (oh, a sentence in Czech! Maybe things aren't all bad after all?), but we all know that I am just rubbish at planning :)

yours truly at 14th of August, 2015 tweeted wrote:
The amount of t's I forget to cross in my #Czech handwriting is loo damn high! #PunIntended

Yesterday I fell the victim of Mikymauz and wrote its text. I swear I didn't intend to do that:


* No, this is not stopping me from doing L-R. All hail logic!
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Via Diva
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 Message 806 of 812
16 August 2015 at 7:52pm | IP Logged 
Not much to tell about the languages. L-R in both TL's - done, Czech Memrise - done, a bit of Czech radio - done.
However, my mother was annoyed when I said "на экспедиции" instead of "в экспедиции" (Russian for on expedition, on=на, в=in) twice or even thrice without noticing her correcting what I say.
Is this the beginning of the end, huh?

My aunt, who doesn't even know much English, tries to teach it to her son, who's almost 4 years old. Not sure if that's a good idea. I volunteered to help, but I don't even know what can I do over Skype and with the fact that I get so nervous that my
pronunciation - which is not good on its own - becomes impossibly bad.
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mrwarper
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 Message 807 of 812
16 August 2015 at 8:50pm | IP Logged 
Via Diva wrote:
My aunt, who doesn't even know much English, tries to teach it to her son, who's almost 4 years old. Not sure if that's a good idea.

I don't think it's a bad idea. Unless you somehow make the experience traumatic, the worst thing that can come out of it is no learning.

Quote:
I volunteered to help, but I don't even know what can I do over Skype and with the fact that I get so nervous that my pronunciation - which is not good on its own - becomes impossibly bad.

Having an 'English-speaking' cousin might be a very cool way to help.

I think languages are too complex and abstract for a 4yo to be excited by the learning alone -- when I was 4 I sure loved learning how to read because it allowed me to read on my own instead of pestering everyone all the time, but I didn't think of or about 'learning how to read'. I think most children will just accept and enjoy learning strange new words if they have somebody with whom they can talk using them :)

Another possibility would be getting him hooked to some cartoon series or the like, but I'm so wary (and weary!) of TV these days...
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Via Diva
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 Message 808 of 812
17 August 2015 at 7:30pm | IP Logged 
I am sort of afraid that he can learn something wrong. But that wouldn't stop me from trying to teach my kids (when I have some, hehe) German, haha, let alone English. But I have to study some sources on the matter.
___________
Lots of sleep. People have to sleep at night and wake up later in case they don't get enough, but I suspect I am not "people". That should not work good for languages, but actually today still turned out to be a normal day, featuring Český rozhlas Plus, L-R and
Memrise.
Herr aller Dinge is so interesting at the moment that I would read for more than 217 minutes haven't I been so tired today.
Actually, German creeps in. I got a book Немецкий без грамматических ошибок (German without grammar mistakes), and it should be gold, if it actually can help me with the prepositions and the like. I should have started the book today.
There are actually so many plans and ideas on how can I study and avoid textbooks and courses, none of these ideas should be new, but I don't care. Yet every day goes the same and I can't bring myself up to anything experimental or unclear.
Remember my stats from UnlockYourBrain? Now the app is called Semper, and though it seems to have become much better than UYB, everything I could find so far is B1 German pack and no Czech. Judging by the words which this B1 pack contains, my vocabulary
is actually better. I can hardly believe that, and I need more time to be sure anyway, but anstarren and grinsen aren't the words I have troubles with.


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