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| fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4526 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese | Message 17 of 28 30 April 2013 at 7:33pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Well, at least in the books (PT-BR version) they always refer to the language spoken in Westeros as "Common Tongue". 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4526 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese | Message 18 of 28 30 April 2013 at 7:40pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
That was a major spoiler! Thank you very much. Edited by fabriciocarraro on 01 May 2013 at 5:20am 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| leroc Senior Member United States Joined 4122 days ago 114 posts - 167 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 19 of 28 30 April 2013 at 7:41pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Huh, I guess it is called the common tongue. I always assumed that you took the name of the continent and add a -n at the end to refer to the language but George RR Martin just refered to it as 'Common tongue' 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Tsopivo Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4282 days ago 258 posts - 411 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Esperanto | Message 20 of 28 30 April 2013 at 10:53pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Dany picks up a few languages along the way and Arya shows some talent for language learning as well. Missandei is born in Naath and by the age of 11, she speaks the Common Tongue of Westeros, High Valyrian and bastard Valyrian (Astapori dialect, probably others) fluently and works as a translator. I'd have to re-read the books to evaluate their level and the level of other characters though.
In the Kushiel's legacy serie by Jacqueline Carey, Phèdre and Alcuin's education has a great focus on languages. In adulthood, she shows uncanny talent for language learning and she probably has a C2 level in a few of them and various levels in others. Moirin also takes an interest in languages but I do not think she gets as good a level as Phèdre. In the Earth's children serie by Jean M. Auel, Ayla, Cro-Magnon girl, is adopted by a tribe of Neanderthals at the age of 5. She struggles a lot with the language since language acquisition in the Neanderthal tribe (in the book) is based on a memory that is already present in a child's brains at birth and they only need to be reminded once or twice to know a word and its variations. Since she does not have those memory, she has to actually learn the language and her progress are slow in her Clan's standard. As a result, many consider her retarded and she feels very much apart. Through hard work, she manages to achieve a C2 level in her Clan's language as well as the "Neantdethal Common tongue" but she forgets her native tongue. Spoiler : In the following books, She gets to live with people from various tribes. Due to how much effort she is used to put into it, she shows a remarkable ability for learning language though she does not feel that way. She gets a C2 level in at least Mamutoii and Zelandonii though her speech keeps a strangeness to it. She also has varying levels in other languages.
Please edit your post before you spoil someone. Edited by Tsopivo on 30 April 2013 at 11:08pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
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Westron is the Common Language in the Middle Earth!!!
I wonder how Ghân-buri-ghân qualifies btw..his speech is a bit peculiar (referring to himself in the 3rd person, lack of link verbs) but he's better than Tarzan. B1 with very weak grammar, maybe? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| patrickwilken Senior Member Germany radiant-flux.net Joined 4344 days ago 1546 posts - 3200 votes Studies: German | Message 22 of 28 01 May 2013 at 5:43pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Here's a cool video of the guy who developed Dothraki:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/video/2013/apr/30/gam e-of-thrones-how-speak-dothraki-video It's cool the level of detail they used. So apparently it didn't make sense for the Dothraki to have words for books, for instance, so they use loan words from High Valyrian. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| clumsy Octoglot Senior Member Poland lang-8.com/6715Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4989 days ago 1116 posts - 1367 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese, Korean, French, Mandarin, Italian, Vietnamese Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swedish Studies: Danish, Dari, Kirundi | Message 23 of 28 02 May 2013 at 9:29pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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The Borat actually speaks Polish.
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| PeteP Newbie United States Joined 4848 days ago 27 posts - 48 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Romanian | Message 24 of 28 02 May 2013 at 11:03pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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The policeman on the tv show 'Allo 'Allo. He is a British intelligence agent during WW2.
He is in France, undercover as a French policeman. The show is in English and the character is speaking VERY bad English with a French accent. In the world of this show, this is supposed to represent him speaking very bad French. A part of the humor is that he THINKS he is C2 but is actually a weak A1. He appears at 10:37 in this link. Allo Allo 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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