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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 4836 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes  Speaks: Russian* | Message 17 of 24 30 May 2013 at 6:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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But история is Geschichte in German, and aren't there more Geschichtes than helicopters?
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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6219 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 18 of 24 30 May 2013 at 7:29pm | IP Logged | ||
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In my experience, no, there are more helicopters. There are plenty of words which are similar in only one of Russian or German to Italian. This leaves either general impressions from extensive study, or carefully comparing corpera or frequency lists; no one on the forum has done the latter, and everyone who's done the former seems to agree, and handwave about German being perhaps twice as close.
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4487 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 19 of 24 09 June 2013 at 1:31pm | IP Logged | ||
What is your reason for thinking there are more Geschichtes than helicopters? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 4836 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 20 of 24 09 June 2013 at 3:43pm | IP Logged | ||
I'm just asking. I know there are very many Latin words in Russian (and quite a lot of German words too). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6377 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 21 of 24 09 June 2013 at 5:46pm | IP Logged | ||
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Even Polish has more, not to mention any Romance language.
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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 4836 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 22 of 24 09 June 2013 at 8:26pm | IP Logged | ||
And what about German? If Russian has more Latin words than German, then it must be closer to Italian than German. But we have to compare frequencies as well. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4624 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 23 of 24 09 June 2013 at 8:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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I seriously doubt that Russian has more Latin loanwords than German. Very often, Russian has a native word where German uses a Latin loan (изучать - studieren, международный - international, гулять - spazieren), furthermore German has a lot more French loanwords than Russian.
EDIT: By the way, "Geschichte" is a bad example, because German also has the noun "Historie" and the adjective "historisch". And normally, a "Geschichtswissenschaftler" is just a "Historiker". Edited by Josquin on 09 June 2013 at 9:09pm 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6377 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 24 of 24 11 June 2013 at 12:10pm | IP Logged | ||
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This silly meme is a nice illustration btw.
The only word that exists in Russian is margherita, and it's the name of a different flower. And okay maaaaaybe "пенал" counts but it's a useless word for most people. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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