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| sans-serif Tetraglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4369 days ago 298 posts - 470 votes  Speaks: Finnish*, English, German, Swedish Studies: Danish | Message 9 of 17 27 September 2013 at 10:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
Same story there: both have an acute accent on the first syllable and the intonation drops back to neutral on the following unaccented syllable, which is probably what you're picking up on. Assuming your audio is standard Swedish, that is. Most dialects agree on the placement and the of type of the accents (rising/falling), but the exact intonation patterns can vary considerably. In any case, you will likely find that a monosyllabic word with an acute accent sounds quite different from a disyllabic word with an acute accent on the first syllable. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Cabaire Senior Member Germany Joined 5409 days ago 725 posts - 1352 votes | Message 10 of 17 27 September 2013 at 11:18pm | IP Logged | |||||
Nouns whose first syllable is unstressed and which form their plural in "er" have the acute accent: restaurang - restauranger. Nouns whose first syllable is stressed and which form their plural in "er" have the grave accent: katt - katter. Exceptions: Word with umlaut (as discussed). Therefore saker and bilder shoud have a grave accent, because the first syllable is stressed. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5038 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French | Message 11 of 17 27 September 2013 at 11:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
Respectfully, I'm going to have to disagree. Bilder, saker, dikter, all have grave accents if you listen in Forvo. In fact, this paper backs it up: Click here. See page 71. Monosyllables becoming disyllables in the plural (without ablauting) seem to always gain a grave accent. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6719 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 12 of 17 27 September 2013 at 11:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
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In my accent: saker is acute and bilder is grave. I have heard people (from Skåne in particular) say 'saker' with a grave accent.
This regards words in isolation. Compounds work differently. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5038 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French | Message 13 of 17 27 September 2013 at 11:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
I'm not sure about that. Regel has a stressed first syllable and forms its plural with er, yet it takes an acute. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5038 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French | Message 14 of 17 27 September 2013 at 11:27pm | IP Logged | |||||
Interesting. Are you from Central Sweden? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| sans-serif Tetraglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4369 days ago 298 posts - 470 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, German, Swedish Studies: Danish | Message 15 of 17 27 September 2013 at 11:54pm | IP Logged | |||||
Looks like I have some studying to do, then. :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6719 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 16 of 17 28 September 2013 at 12:44am | IP Logged | |||||
No, Gotland. To my ears, "saker" with a grave accent is extremely uncommon (and it's not that people in my area all speak the same way not at all). By the way, the multi-syllable examples from p 71, generator and professor can have either pitch. I know people (from my area) who use acute for both, some use grave for both, and then we have grave generator and acute professor (the most common, to my ears). I'd bet a virtual dollar that most with a Northern Swedish accent say both with an acute pitch. This means that there are words which in certain regional accents take the other pitch. Even names aren't pronunced with the same pitch accent everywhere (and again, people in my dialect area say some names totally opposite to what I do). Confusing? 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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