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| languagenerd09 Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom youtube.com/user/Lan Joined 4882 days ago 174 posts - 267 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Thai | Message 9 of 22 28 October 2013 at 5:12pm | IP Logged | ||
He meant that I'm stronger in terms of the ability to learn a language and keep the word locked in my mind and make connections from such words to another language - as are many many people - but a lot more than I can with things like mathematics or drawing or sciences - which I couldn't do very well at school. He was fascinated that I knew how to ascertain a language like Chinese as he physically saw everything i'd written but I didn't know about Dutch or Italian for example. It was mainly because my left side of my brain is totally meant to be 'inactive' because of me being epileptic and having seizures but for some reason i've found a way to activate the use of both sides of my brain which is why he found is weirdly interesting, he even said " you've slightly thrown a spanner in the works". As for the writing down, what he meaning is, if I read something like этим вечером ужасно холодно - which I saw last night - he means instead of just reading it and speaking it, write it down repeatedly in a scrap book and it causes my brain to cause a 'memory lock' meaning that it goes inside my brain and can't go out. Which is why I know words in other languages that I can't claim to speak because it's only a few words - but they're in my brain, so Russian for example, I have the basic greetings, how're you, I feel cold, it is hot, I am a teacher etc - all from seeing conversations on language chat-rooms. They're in my brain but - as he said - are "unprocessed" 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4610 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 10 of 22 28 October 2013 at 8:20pm | IP Logged | ||
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I thought the ideas about right-brain being visual and left-brain being verbal were
nowadays seen as being at best, rather simplistic? If it's really true that your left-brain is inactive, isn't a simple explanation that you are doing it all from your right brain, and maybe we all can, to some extent, i.e. we all use both halves of our brains for both(all) sorts of processing? 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| languagenerd09 Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom youtube.com/user/Lan Joined 4882 days ago 174 posts - 267 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Thai | Message 11 of 22 29 October 2013 at 12:02am | IP Logged | ||
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My left side isn't inactive but that's where my seizures occur, so in theory it makes it feasible that the majority of my learning style should be from
the right side of my brain but for some reason I use both sides even though I suffer the seizures - that's what he was telling me, in basic terms, that he was flabbergasted that I have the ability to use both sides of my brain and have little fails in my memory compared to other people he's tested with the same type of epilepsy as me. When things are broken down into structures and I use words - that's left side. Response to music and pictures (in this case, Chinese characters) and be good with shapes and patterns (from the test he took) - that's my right side. I had to draw back a shape he shown me - I got perfect 4 out of 5 attempts. I had to say back words to him, a random list of 15, on my first attempt I got 13, second attempt 14 then the third, fourth and fifth - I got all fifteen. Edited by languagenerd09 on 29 October 2013 at 12:04am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4791 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 12 of 22 29 October 2013 at 11:06am | IP Logged | ||
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I would say the left and right hemisphere mantras are rather simplistic as well. And
some functions can be "moved" to the other hemisphere in times of need, as was proved on many examples already. Especially when those in need are still quite young. Perhaps the fact you are much better at learning Mandaring than a european language may come purely from your interest? Or your interest and talents got well together, which is the best base for learning one could ask for.
It's not just a social form. In past, most countries saw writing with the left hand as not normal and the educational systems were actively fighting it. It was much more common in totalitarian countries where quite every aspect of life needed to fit in the norm. In reality, it was just torture for the left-handed children. For example my uncle was forced to write with the right hand despite his obvious natural preference, just like quite all the left-handed children of his generation. He takes all the tools in his left hand but he writes horribly with the right one today. And it meant several years of stress to learn to scratch some kind of writing with his right hand. The majority of people in China may be right handed. We are the majority worldwide. But a lot of people may have been just "reprogrammed" against their nature because the approach I mentioned above is still said to be extremely common in China. p.s. languagenerd09: I hope you are ok and out of the hospital already :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6379 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 13 of 22 29 October 2013 at 4:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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In some ways it's similar to the perception of homosexuality...
To stay on topic, I once saw a "fun facts" tweet: Left-handedness is also known as "sinistrality" because left-handed people were once thought to be demons. *headdesk* It's the Latin for left! the left side itself was considered evil! I hope I'm not telling y'all anything new.... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4610 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 14 of 22 29 October 2013 at 6:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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I believe they were still beating left handers for using their left hands back when my
parents were at school (in the UK). By the time I got to school, that had gone, but you were still made to feel a little unusual, and even my own Father used to worry me by saying from time to time "...it's a right-handed world...", not that there was much I could do about it. To the OP: sorry if I was a little over-sceptical. I was forgetting that presumably your doctor was in a position to observe and measure directly your hemispherical activity while you were doing the various tasks. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| languagenerd09 Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom youtube.com/user/Lan Joined 4882 days ago 174 posts - 267 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Thai | Message 15 of 22 29 October 2013 at 7:26pm | IP Logged | ||
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He made the observations that he did, plus witnessed me using foreign language even moments after I'd had a seizure, I asked " gdzie jest mój tata? " to the Polish nurse
who I'd been speaking to earlier. Then he also seen me have a conversation with another patient and her mother - both of them from Brazil and we spoke in Portuguese and just gave stories about our childhood etc 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| cacue23 Triglot Groupie Canada Joined 4081 days ago 89 posts - 122 votes Speaks: Shanghainese, Mandarin*, English Studies: Cantonese | Message 16 of 22 29 October 2013 at 9:52pm | IP Logged | ||
Nowadays teachers tell kids to write "with the hand that you use to eat". But parents still regard left-handedness as abnormal and force their kids to switch to the right hand. Chinese parents can be very cruel to their kids sometimes. Edited by cacue23 on 29 October 2013 at 9:59pm 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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