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Josquin
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 Message 161 of 168
19 December 2014 at 5:45pm | IP Logged 
Here's my end-of-the-year summary for this year's TAC. Hope to see a lot of you on the next East Asian team!

お疲れ様でした!



Woodsei
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 Message 162 of 168
23 December 2014 at 7:48am | IP Logged 
Here's my summary for 2014.

I was not a good TAC'er this year. Not even remotely. Apart from a few disjointed
attempts at reading in Russian and Japanese, I have almost abandoned the two, and my
log reflects this. It's not for lack of motivation, though certainly it's because a
lot of sudden changes took place over a short period of time, and their impact left me
drained. But I have really sized up the situation, and the time I realistically have,
and have been steadily working to establish a routine over the past few months. I'm
glad to say it's working, so I'm definitely optimistic that 2015 will be THE year for
Russian and Japanese. I love my two dear friends, and I miss the time spent doing
actual learning, not to mention participating with everyone on the forum.

I will not be joining the Russian team for 2015, choosing to keep my focus on only one
team (East Asian) but I will still be working a bit on Russian. I'll
also definitely update regularly on my progress.

I'll post this same summary on my log. I'm not sure yet whether to start a new one, or
keep the old one. I like the idea of a clean slate, but I hate to abandon my log,
especially in its current state of going south, and pretty darn fast. It feel like I'm
closing down a failure of a project. So, I'll think it over the next few days. In the
meantime, good luck, folks! See you all on the 2015 East Asian team!



mrwarper
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 Message 163 of 168
12 January 2015 at 8:20pm | IP Logged 
Well, my 2014 summary starts here (a rather long summary for a most unproductive year), but the part that may be relevant to Japanese I'll paste here for your convenience:

Of these, I didn't manage to get to 2 hours of speaking in Japanese. Exchanges of pleasantries I can manage, anything I attempt beyond that makes me quickly fall back to Spanish, English or whatever, because my vocabulary is so limited I'm (theoretically) better at connecting stuff than I am at actually uttering sentences to be connected. Fortunately, my main goal when meeting my friend was talking to him, not necessarily doing so in Japanese.

Right after coming back from Madrid I tried to watch a Kurosawa movie I had previously seen with another friend years ago and I couldn't understand more than a few words here and there, way less than I seemed to recall. I guess what you lose first is whatever stuff is most lightly connected (or unconnected) to anything else.

So, Japanese was a total* failure, but again no surprises.

The only thing I regret is having neglected the team thread as well, especially because I was co-captain/helmsman. Not that it was very active anyway, but rather than going with the saying "the sorrow of the many is a fool's consolation", I'll take it is a lesson to not partake in any future teams until I actually activate my studies beforehand so there's an actual chance of positive contribution from my part.

Sorry everyone. I hope 切腹 is not expected from me, though ; (
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 Message 164 of 168
22 September 2016 at 4:44pm | IP Logged 
mrwarper wrote:

Sorry everyone. I hope 切腹 is not expected from me, though ; (


Ummm... What does 切腹 mean and how to read it? 切 means "cut", right?



Woodsei
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 Message 165 of 168
22 September 2016 at 6:22pm | IP Logged 
Monox D. I-Fly wrote:
mrwarper wrote:

Sorry everyone. I hope 切腹 is not expected from me, though ; (


Ummm... What does 切腹 mean and how to read it? 切 means "cut", right?


It means ritual suicide or disembowelment by cutting one's own belly; what the samurai
would do to themselves for various reasons, one being loyalty, other, honor; yet another
execution, in times of war. I think mrwarper was being figurative here. "せつ” means to
cut.The word in question is read "せっぷく。” Hope this helps.
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 Message 166 of 168
26 September 2016 at 5:33pm | IP Logged 
Woodsei wrote:
Monox D. I-Fly wrote:
mrwarper wrote:

Sorry everyone. I hope 切腹 is not expected from me, though ; (


Ummm... What does 切腹 mean and how to read it? 切 means "cut", right?


It means ritual suicide or disembowelment by cutting one's own belly; what the samurai
would do to themselves for various reasons, one being loyalty, other, honor; yet another
execution, in times of war. I think mrwarper was being figurative here. "せつ” means to
cut.The word in question is read "せっぷく。” Hope this helps.


"Seppuku", eh? Yeah, it did help. However, I am also curious about the Kanji 切 itself. If it means "cut", why is it also in the Kanji for "setsuna" which means "precious"?



Woodsei
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 Message 167 of 168
26 September 2016 at 10:29pm | IP Logged 
Monox D. I-Fly wrote:
Woodsei wrote:
Monox D. I-Fly wrote:
mrwarper wrote:

Sorry everyone. I hope 切腹 is not expected from me, though ; (


Ummm... What does 切腹 mean and how to read it? 切 means "cut", right?


It means ritual suicide or disembowelment by cutting one's own belly; what the samurai
would do to themselves for various reasons, one being loyalty, other, honor; yet
another
execution, in times of war. I think mrwarper was being figurative here. "せつ” means
to
cut.The word in question is read "せっぷく。” Hope this helps.


"Seppuku", eh? Yeah, it did help. However, I am also curious about the Kanji 切
itself. If it means "cut", why is it also in the Kanji for "setsuna" which means
"precious"?

So, while the kanji itself means cut, it also means sharp, or acute. When you think of
it as an adjectival noun, this acuteness could be implemented in precious or ardent,
etc. As if it means sharply precious, in other words. I don't know how to explain it,
and I'm sorry I'm not doing a good job here, but what I'm trying to say, that this
sharpness is contextual, as it could breed cutting, but it could also breed sharp
intensity of feeling, like preciousness, kindness, etc.
Maybe that's why it's used in the above kanji for seppuku. The samurai is in essence
cutting his own precious life short.


Edited by Woodsei on 26 September 2016 at 10:30pm

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Monox D. I-Fly
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 Message 168 of 168
27 September 2016 at 1:03am | IP Logged 
Woodsei wrote:
So, while the kanji itself means cut, it also means sharp, or acute. When you think of
it as an adjectival noun, this acuteness could be implemented in precious or ardent,
etc. As if it means sharply precious, in other words. I don't know how to explain it,
and I'm sorry I'm not doing a good job here, but what I'm trying to say, that this
sharpness is contextual, as it could breed cutting, but it could also breed sharp
intensity of feeling, like preciousness, kindness, etc.
Maybe that's why it's used in the above kanji for seppuku. The samurai is in essence
cutting his own precious life short.


OK, I get it. What about "setsunai"? Does that mean "unsharp" or "not precious"?



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