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 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6690 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes  Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 297 of 438 04 June 2014 at 7:10pm | IP Logged |
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Just behind the lower front teeth - actually the tip doesn't touch the teeth but the part behind touches the teeth next to them - the mandibular lateral incisors, I believe. So, whatever part of the tongue that's closest to them.
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| Sarnek Diglot Senior Member Italy Joined 3996 days ago 308 posts - 414 votes Speaks: Italian*, English Studies: German, Swedish | Message 298 of 438 04 June 2014 at 7:43pm | IP Logged |
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Very!
Now I understand why it sounded "different". Thanks for the accurate description. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6690 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 299 of 438 04 June 2014 at 11:46pm | IP Logged |
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Actually, I had to sound the s slowly a couple of times and really feel which part of the tongue was in contact with which teeth (and I had to look up the Wikipedia article to get the terminology right!). I'm glad my description helped.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6378 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 300 of 438 04 June 2014 at 11:49pm | IP Logged |
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Not the alveoles?
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| jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6690 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 301 of 438 05 June 2014 at 12:25am | IP Logged |
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I wouldn't say that the tip touches the alveolar ridge - the blade definitely does, though. If the tip is in contact with anything (at all), it's the lower front teeth. But personally, I feel contact with the mandibular lateral incisors (one day I'll form a band with that name...).
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| Sarnek Diglot Senior Member Italy Joined 3996 days ago 308 posts - 414 votes Speaks: Italian*, English Studies: German, Swedish | Message 302 of 438 05 June 2014 at 8:04am | IP Logged |
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No it's definetely not an alveloar fricative. I'd say it's a palatal-alveolar fricative. I
think that mostly every Swedish fricative is palatal-alveolar. Like the k in front of a palatal vowel: "köra", "kina" and so on... It's interesting how they never mention these important details even in specialised books about Swedish phonetics. Edited by Sarnek on 05 June 2014 at 8:28am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6378 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 303 of 438 06 June 2014 at 3:17pm | IP Logged |
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Argh, I got my degree!
I mean argh, I had exams on three Tuesdays in a row and then my diploma presentation. So I kept starting consistency goals and breaking the chain on Tuesdays. Now I'm off to St Petersburg so I don't think I'll try to complete the 7 days of Danish. Still aiming for the Swedish goal though. I've also read jeff's post properly and it makes sense now. I took the mandibular thing to mean the part below the alveolar ridge. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Emme Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 5128 days ago 980 posts - 1594 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German Studies: Russian, Swedish, French | Message 304 of 438 06 June 2014 at 4:28pm | IP Logged |
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@Serpent
Congrats! I think that achievement is way more important than our little monthly challenges, so don’t beat yourself up if you don’t finish the 7-day streak. Enjoy St Petersburg: it’s such a wonderful city! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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