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Assimil German without toil = 2500 words

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GermanMd
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23 December 2013 at 11:06pm | IP Logged 
Hello guys,

I have just found that Assimil German without toil has approximately 2500 words,
this mean it's very close to B1 level .. what do you think ?

Edited by GermanMd on 23 December 2013 at 11:14pm

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ericblair
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24 December 2013 at 3:20am | IP Logged 
What are you asking, exactly? Whether forum members think it can get you to B1? The
answer is, maybe. It depends on you, and how you use the material.
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Doitsujin
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24 December 2013 at 10:39am | IP Logged 
GermanMd wrote:
I have just found that Assimil German without toil has approximately 2500 words, this mean it's very close to B1 level .. what do you think ?


AFAIK, most current Assimil sans peine courses claim that they prepare students for CEFR A1 to B2. However, the Goethe-Institut estimates that you'll need to know approximately 3500 words for B1. (The CEFR defines only skills but not word counts.)
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fireballtrouble
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24 December 2013 at 2:15pm | IP Logged 
If you absorb the book completely, if you learn it inside out, I may say you'll be close
to B1. But if you study with "1 lesson a day, no need to memorize" motto, I don't think
it'll work as you can't retain all the words in this way.
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Gemuse
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24 December 2013 at 4:52pm | IP Logged 
Also, assuming you spend 1.5 hrs on each lesson (0.5 first round, 0.5 revision, 0.5
second round), you will spend 150hrs on the whole course. It is extremely unlikely to be
able to get to B1 with that. I would hazard that it would take at least 500hrs of study
to get to B1.
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Jeffers
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25 December 2013 at 11:07pm | IP Logged 
CEFR used to have word counts with their skills levels. They no longer do this. I think there are two reasons:
1. Word counts are different from language to language for particular proficiency levels.
2. They didn't want people to produce a test proving they know 2500 words and claim therefore to have a B1 in a language.
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26 December 2013 at 1:03am | IP Logged 
There is also more to learning a language and CEFR levels than just reading dialogues which
it seems make up the bulk of Assimil. The Goethe Institut's B1 exam envolves reading articles
and, emails, and ads, listening to short lectures and the radio, writing short (grammatically
correct) texts, and speaking.

Essentially you'll need more than assimil to pass the B1 exam in German (or likely any
language).


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