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| gRodriguez Triglot Groupie BrazilRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3815 days ago 44 posts - 56 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC2, Galician Studies: Spanish, Japanese | Message 9 of 63 24 December 2013 at 3:07pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Isn't ebonics a dialect? They spoke using the exact same vocabulary as I used to the only
difference was their accent. So that north-south thing is the reason for both the existence of ebonics and the "accented" standard English? Edited by gRodriguez on 24 December 2013 at 3:14pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Doitsujin Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5107 days ago 1256 posts - 2363 votes Speaks: German*, English | Message 10 of 63 24 December 2013 at 3:15pm | IP Logged | |||||
IMHO, most non-black American native English speakers can understand AAVE, but only those who live in predominantly black communities can also speak it like native AAVE speakers. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 3834 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 11 of 63 24 December 2013 at 3:17pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I noticed the same phenomenon in The Netherlands, and there the situation is probably similar: black native Dutch
speakers come originally from Suriname, Dutch colony where Dutch language was imposed. Paradoxically, the most part of monolingual Dutch speakers are not Dutch. Also a significant number of people coming from abroad know very well Dutch but not English. One day I had to order a mango pudding to a Vietnamese lady in Dutch (and I knew even less Dutch than now). Sorry for the off topic :) However, I noticed that also in The Netherlands black people tend to stay with other black people, reason that can partially explain why they talk with a completely different accent. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Doitsujin Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5107 days ago 1256 posts - 2363 votes Speaks: German*, English | Message 12 of 63 24 December 2013 at 3:46pm | IP Logged | |||||
Maybe what you had problems with was Southern American English (Youtube link), because some Blacks still maintain some kind of Southern American English accent, even if their ancestors moved away from the South generations ago. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| gRodriguez Triglot Groupie BrazilRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3815 days ago 44 posts - 56 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC2, Galician Studies: Spanish, Japanese | Message 13 of 63 24 December 2013 at 3:54pm | IP Logged | |||||
That's exactly what I heard, how an accent can last so many generations? And there weren't any blacks living in the North? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| culebrilla Senior Member United States Joined 3784 days ago 246 posts - 436 votes Speaks: Spanish | Message 14 of 63 24 December 2013 at 3:58pm | IP Logged | |||||
Sorry, I should have been more clear I suppose. I mean that most young americans can speak a little bit of ebonics; that is what I meant by some extent. I mean things like, "man, I don't got nothing." (double negation not present in standard English) You crazy, son. So we was drinking when... So I says... Mannnn...why you gotta be tripping like dat? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4494 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 15 of 63 24 December 2013 at 4:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
Yeah they clique. I love the accent though. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
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AAVE is just another dialect of English. It's as grammatical as any other dialect, but
because it's spoken primarily by poor black (and white!) people in urban areas, it's pretty stigmatized. Social class divides AAVE speakers from other dialects more than race. 8 persons have voted this message useful |
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