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luke
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 Message 113 of 451
07 June 2014 at 10:37am | IP Logged 
PeterMollenburg wrote:
Barron's Mastering French Level One (2nd ed) by FSI
(replica of FSI units 1-6) completed


Awesome accomplishment Peter!

I'm curious how you integrated the book into your studies with FSI French.
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PeterMollenburg
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 Message 114 of 451
07 June 2014 at 12:17pm | IP Logged 
luke wrote:
PeterMollenburg wrote:
Barron's Mastering French Level One (2nd ed) by FSI
(replica of FSI units 1-6) completed


Awesome accomplishment Peter!

I'm curious how you integrated the book into your studies with FSI French.


Thanks Luke,

The book which I believe is exactly like online FSI French is a print-out of all the audio, some very brief
explanations and a few text only exercises, as far as I can tell it is exactly the same as the FSI online stuff...
Sorry you prob already knew that, so onto your question.

All I did was refer to it as a guide, verifying what I was hearing was what I thought I was hearing, or in some
cases to verify what I couldn't work out what I was hearing. Although, for the most part it really was like an
audio course as I certainly didn't look at the book continuously. However I felt more comfortable using the
book as a guide so that I could refer to anything in the book or in a dictionary if required (knowing what the
word was from print). The only written activities I did amounted to writing answers to the written exercises (ie I
didn't write out the audio-based exercises), and I added any new words I was unfamiliar with to my French
SRS flashcard deck, which wasn't that many. Then why do the course? Well it was really valuable in working
on accent, rhythm, pace, and listening. As well as increasing one's confidence with an array of phrases and
conjugations that I hadn't practised before despite being aware of them.

As a side note I didn't move on from any of the exercises before I felt like I had not made any errors. This
meant the early units I only had to go through many exercises once, units 3 & 4 prob progressed to me doing
some activities twice and a few more than that and the last units I was repeating more than that generally
speaking.
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luke
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 Message 115 of 451
07 June 2014 at 12:43pm | IP Logged 
Thanks Peter,

That sounds a lot like how I've done it. I haven't started putting FSI vocabulary in Anki yet, but as you said, there haven't been that many unknown words.
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Jeffers
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 Message 116 of 451
13 June 2014 at 2:28pm | IP Logged 
You're kind of inspiring me to get back to FSI. I last left it in March in the middle of
Unit 7. From my experience up to that point, it will be really worthwhile to complete
the whole thing. But I actually think giving myself time between units to allow the
material to seep in, then reviewing the previous unit before starting the new one, will
be more effective over time. Hmmm.... I'm really thinking while writing here.... perhaps
I should set a goal to complete one unit per month.
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luke
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 Message 117 of 451
13 June 2014 at 3:03pm | IP Logged 
Jeffers wrote:
You're kind of inspiring me to get back to FSI. I last left it in March in the middle of Unit 7. From my experience up to that point, it will be really worthwhile to complete the whole thing. But I actually think giving myself time between units to allow the material to seep in, then reviewing the previous unit before starting the new one, will be more effective over time. Hmmm.... I'm really thinking while writing here.... perhaps I should set a goal to complete one unit per month.


I agree wholeheartedly and happen to be in the middle of Unit 7 myself. Tape 7.6 I believe, which has a lot of object pronouns. Je vous écoute, etc.

A unit a month is not a crazy goal. In a way, I think of FSI as covering the grammar of 2 years of French at the university, in that by the end of the 2nd year, one should be learning nuance to grammar, rather than the basics.

So, 24 units, 24 months.

Allons-y! En route! Bonne route!
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 Message 118 of 451
13 June 2014 at 3:30pm | IP Logged 
luke wrote:
So, 24 units, 24 months.

Allons-y! En route! Bonne route!


I will if you will!
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 Message 119 of 451
13 June 2014 at 6:36pm | IP Logged 
Jeffers wrote:
luke wrote:
So, 24 units, 24 months.

Allons-y! En route! Bonne route!


I will if you will!

So, should we start a Super FSI Challenge or something? :)
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 Message 120 of 451
14 June 2014 at 10:04am | IP Logged 
Glad to serve as some inspiration... And yes I think you guys should do FSI. One course isn't going to
interfere much with your SC.

I made a list of my French courses the other day... it's kind of scary (hence why I took Jeffers advice at the
beginning of the SC and have returned to doing my courses along with some SC activity at the same time).
This list is only courses I haven't completed (altho I have completed Colloquial French before but am not
reviewing it). The 3 graded levels i've categorized into are just my idea to simply break the list up a little.

The DAUNTING LIST!!!

NIVEAU DÉBUTANT
Colloquial French
Teach Yourself Get Started in French
Living Language 1
Fluenz French 3
Teach Yourself Complete French
Living Language 2
Tell Me More
FSI niveau 2 (unité 7-12)
Assimil NFWE
Teach Yourself Perfect Your French
Fluenz French 4
Living Language 3
Production écrite B1/B2

     NIVEAU MOYEN
Conversational French 20 Lessons Cortina Method
Fluenz French 5
Hugo French Advanced
FSI niveau 3 (unité 13-18)
Assimil Using French
Colloquial French 2
Préparation à l'examen du DELF B2
Réussir le DELF B2
Activités pour le CECR niv. B2

             NIVEAU SUPÉRIEUR
Tell Me More (Business/advanced)
FSI niveau 4 (unité 19-24)
Barron's Mastering French Vocab.
Assimil Business French
Ultimate French Review & Practise
Ultimate FR Verb Review & Practise
Street French 1
Street French 2
French Verb Mastery
Advanced French Grammar
Vis-à-vis
FIA
Production écrite niveaux C1/C2
Réussir le DALF C1 et C2
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edit:
Audio courses yet to complete:
Piimsleur 3
Pimsleur 4
Rocket French Premium Plus
Rocket French Platinum
Bien-dire (various audio CDs)
Fluenz French Audio CDs

Also French magazines:
Think French
Bien-dire

Other
Subscription to "Yabla" (online videos)

Edited by PeterMollenburg on 14 June 2014 at 10:17am



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