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| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7000 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 9 of 11 13 February 2014 at 6:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
This all reminds me of the power of extensive reading/listening/watching for vocabulary acquisition. Everything may not be a 'silly story', but mathematically, it's better to remember 50% of 100 things that 100% of 20. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5561 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 10 of 11 13 February 2014 at 8:55pm | IP Logged | |||||
I managed to not write down what I actually meant to, which was: Guided production from the original text (oral and written), with corrections from a proficient speaker. What I also meant to say was: I think you don't need a mnemonic system for passive acquisition of vocabulary (except maybe for those few words that really don't stick), and when you attempt to learn to use the vocabulary actively, the end goal is to build your internal lexicon of the target language so you can access it automatically. How the initial acquisition stages of being able to recognize the word and know what it means and being able to recall the word from the translation are reached isn't that important, you could use a memory palace for that. But it's no use if you don't then practice enough to gain the procedural knowledge necessary for being able to make use of the words, plus circumstantial/contextual knowledge about their usage that make life easier when trying to communicate. And yes, extensive reading/listening does help, but mostly in the long term. And I think that the combination of activities aimed at short to medium term gain with those aimed at medium to long term gain is probably useful for most people. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6498 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 11 of 11 14 February 2014 at 9:54am | IP Logged | |||||
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OK, I answered what you wrote and not what you meant - but guided production with or unguided production without a proficient speaker have in common that you are forced to recall the words you have learnt passively and to put them in realistic sentences. And that's good. You probably gain some proficiency (and maybe a limited number of words and idioms) from getting the corrections, but you get your fluency from the time between the corrections.
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