Elizabeth_rb Diglot Groupie United Kingdom polyglotintraining.b Joined 4423 days ago 54 posts - 84 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: GermanB1
| Message 1 of 19 19 February 2014 at 2:16pm | IP Logged |
I like this series, which works mostly on the grammar translation method and is quite
similar in format to the perennially popular 'Living Italian' book. I have almost every
language they ever published in it (except Arabic, Welsh, Swedish, Polish and Turkish.
Czech
too, if they did it), and all the 'Advanced' series too.
I was just wondering if anyone had used one seriously and how they felt about it?
I'd love to give it a trial with a language that's quite unknown to me, say Norwegian or
Greek, and see how I got on. Anyone done this?
Edited by Elizabeth_rb on 19 February 2014 at 4:57pm
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luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6992 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French
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Professor Arguelles reviewed Hugo X in Three
Months. He mentions there are different generations of the program. It would also be helpful to know
the vintage (publication date) of the program reviewed.
Ardashir, AKA Professor Arguelles, also did a review of the
Living Language series.
Edited by luke on 19 February 2014 at 4:30pm
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Elizabeth_rb Diglot Groupie United Kingdom polyglotintraining.b Joined 4423 days ago 54 posts - 84 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: GermanB1
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Interesting vid, thanks. It didn't teach me anything new - except a look at the very old
versions, which was interesting - as I have several already from 3 different cover types.
Has anyone used them themselves?
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Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5352 days ago 938 posts - 1839 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin
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Arguelles' video is slightly misleading. The different generations of the Hugo 'In 3 Months' series are merely
changes to type setting and layout (unsurprisingly he doesn't like the new 'easier to read' layout) and
currency - not content.
Edited by Elexi on 19 February 2014 at 5:46pm
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Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5352 days ago 938 posts - 1839 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin
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I have used German in 3 Month and French in 3 Month - they are both useful courses, but suffer the
problems of many grammar translation based courses in that they do a function and then move on to the next
one - so one never gets to practice 'joined up language'. Being quite dated (they are essentially adaptions of
their predecessor 'Simplified System' courses from the 60s)they use quite stilted language. Personally
though, I like them - when I get round to learning Dutch I will use the Hugo course after I have finished the
MT and Pimsleur courses (which is how I like to start a language) and before moving on to Assimil
and Linguaphone.
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Elizabeth_rb Diglot Groupie United Kingdom polyglotintraining.b Joined 4423 days ago 54 posts - 84 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: GermanB1
| Message 6 of 19 19 February 2014 at 9:07pm | IP Logged |
Elexi wrote:
Arguelles' video is slightly misleading. The different generations of the Hugo 'In 3 Months' series are merely changes to type setting and layout ... and currency
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Yes, that's mostly true! The Italian one he showed had been re-written at one point. I
think, once they became 'in three months', they've stayed essentially the same.
The issue I have with the German one - both the first and second volumes, is that they
don't use proper grammar terms, so you have to 'translate' the name of all the cases etc
back to the real thing before you can look them up in other books. Bit silly really.
Edited by Elizabeth_rb on 19 February 2014 at 9:08pm
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Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5352 days ago 938 posts - 1839 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin
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I agree with you Elizabeth - I found it silly,
especially when it used English grammatical terms in
place of German ones. I pencilled in the case names
and proceeded from there. Have you used the advanced
course from Hugo for German? If so, what is it like?
Edited by Elexi on 20 February 2014 at 6:18pm
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Elizabeth_rb Diglot Groupie United Kingdom polyglotintraining.b Joined 4423 days ago 54 posts - 84 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: GermanB1
| Message 8 of 19 21 February 2014 at 10:43am | IP Logged |
I've looked through it more than used it. It continues with the same dumbed down
grammatical terms and, when I get around to studying it, I'll do as you did and pencil
in. The content itself looks OK, but this silliness with re-naming stuff is a big
negative.=(
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