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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6379 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 17 of 24 07 March 2014 at 1:54pm | IP Logged | |||||
I think writing dialogues is a nice idea for this challenge, btw. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Ezy Ryder Diglot Senior Member Poland youtube.com/user/Kat Joined 4131 days ago 284 posts - 387 votes Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 18 of 24 07 March 2014 at 2:30pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I remember there being some research, indicating that comprehension (and reading being
pleasant) requires 95-98% text coverage. And finding suitable materials at earlier levels might be problematic. Also, shouldn't the content be interesting? I thought that was one of the points of extensive reading. After getting thorough the "Wow! I'm actually reading something in the target language" enthusiasm phase, keeping reading children's books, or other of the kind, might not suit everyone. Or it might be hard to find enough interesting content at the level for the reading to be... well, extensive. Wouldn't anyone be interested in a challenge based on something more reliable, when it comes to predicting results? The biggest challenges I'm aware of, are TAC and the Super Challenge. The first one being time period oriented, and the latter on amount of exposure to native content. The results in the first one will depend on study methods and time spent studying, and the latter on current level of the participant and the level of the content. A vocabulary based challenge's results would mainly depend on the grammar level, and usefulness of the studied words themselves. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4691 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 19 of 24 07 March 2014 at 4:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
If you would like to propose such a challenge, by all means start a new thread and write your ideas. I am sure you will be able to suggest some great ideas, and will generate a lot of useful discussion. But please keep this thread focused on discussing how we can make use of the learning based challenge. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6379 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 20 of 24 07 March 2014 at 4:38pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Prof Arguelles recommends 80%. For me 70% can be pretty comfortable, and if I really care about the content, below 50% is not impossible. And these numbers can get much more vague when related languages are involved.
Anyway, it seems like for now we're having a more customized challenge. The thing with a 10k words challenge is that even for the biggest Anki fans it's just one of the tools. The biggest "living decks" I've heard of are about 5-7k at most. And it would disrupt the natural flow of deleting and adding and possibly starting afresh. Have you seen this thread? 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Kerrie Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Kerrie2 Joined 5177 days ago 1232 posts - 1740 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 21 of 24 07 March 2014 at 5:12pm | IP Logged | |||||
Besides Anki/vocab, I was thinking about going back to Assimil, so a lesson a day. (Or 5 lessons per week, with my schedule.) With the lighter (reading part of the) Super Challenge this time around, I was thinking of adding Italian and German to the mix. After I get through a passive wave of Assimil, I would do a month of intensive vocab (maybe 20-30 words a day for a month or two), before I jump into reading for the SC. The (short term) intensive vocab worked wonders for my Spanish reading last time around. :D 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4691 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 22 of 24 16 March 2014 at 9:27pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I have just created a signup thread for this challenge.
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=38354&PN=1&TPN=1 Have fun! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6379 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 23 of 24 17 March 2014 at 2:29pm | IP Logged | |||||
Just to clarify - how about, for example, 15 GLOSS lessons total? Like, I'm not sure how exactly I'll combine them to reach this total. BTW it's Saami. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4691 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 24 of 24 17 March 2014 at 3:50pm | IP Logged | |||||
Whoops! I'll fix my post. "15 total among x, y, z," seems like a good way to do that. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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