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Javi
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 Message 17 of 25
2014 March 29 at 11:13pm | IP Logged 
In Spanish: ¿qué vez hace?, not a single word though.
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andy123
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 Message 18 of 25
2014 April 05 at 11:04pm | IP Logged 
"This is which time" = "В какой раз" in perfect Russian.
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shk00design
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 Message 19 of 25
2014 April 05 at 11:44pm | IP Logged 
1 way to pose the question in Chinese would be:
你是第一次来到纽约吗? nǐ shì dìyīcì láidào Niǔyuē ma translated directly as "You are the first time come to New York"?
In the sentence 你 "you" the subject is placed in the beginning followed by the verb 是 "are". The 吗 at the end of the
sentence is a filler to a "yes/no" question.
The phrase for "the first time" can also be written as 头一次 tóuyīcì: 你是头一次来到纽约吗?

The reply: 第二次 dìèrcì "The second time".


Edited by shk00design on 2014 April 05 at 11:59pm

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yong321
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 Message 20 of 25
2014 April 06 at 6:21am | IP Logged 
Javi and andy123, Can "qué" in Spanish and "В какой" in Russian be generalized to form part of this interrogative phrase, not limited to "time" (as in "for the first time", not in "I have time")? I mean, if the question is not about "time", but say "book", "apple", etc, can "qué manzana?" or "В какой яблоко?" demand the answer "the n-th one" and reject "the one in the basket"?

shk00design, your question "你是第一次来到纽约吗?" is a yes-no question. We're talking about an information question (what English speakers may call wh-question). I know English has no problem with a yes-no question regarding "which time".

By the way, I made a short summary of this topic on my blog. Correction is welcome.
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andy123
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 Message 21 of 25
2014 April 06 at 8:18am | IP Logged 
yong321 wrote:
Can "В какой" in Russian be generalized to form part


of course, though it changes a form a little. You can ask "Какое яблоко", "Какая машина", "Какой
человек" and get all sort of answers like "the red one", "the big one", "the fifth one", "the one in the
basket" etc.
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Dragon27
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 Message 22 of 25
2014 April 06 at 1:47pm | IP Logged 
yong321 wrote:
Correction is welcome.

You should mention "Который?" in Russian. It requires either numerical answer or something like "последний" (the
last one), "предпоследний" (penultimate) etc. Or may be even less numerical indication of a specific object ("the
one, that is on the shelf"). May be extended to "Который по счёту", as already been said earlier in this thread (and
this form demands an ordinal number or indication of number more strongly). Or "который раз" in some cases.

Edited by Dragon27 on 2014 April 06 at 1:58pm

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Medulin
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 Message 23 of 25
2014 April 06 at 3:30pm | IP Logged 
This is which time you come to New York?

in Croatian it would be:
''Koji ti je ovo put u New Yorku''?

Koji = Which
ti = to you
je = is
ovo = this
put = time

lit. Which time is it to you in NYC?
:)
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yong321
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 Message 24 of 25
2014 April 06 at 6:52pm | IP Logged 
andy123: If "Какое яблоко?" can be answered with "the one in the basket", then that's not what I want. I want the question that can only be answered with an ordinal number.

Dragon27: If "Который?" can be answered with "the last one" (not strictly ordinal), I think it's OK if we relax the rule in searching for this type of interrogative word/phrase. I'll mention this in my blog.

Medulin: Can the Croatian question in your example be changed to asking about say "apple" and the answer must be "the first (second,...) apple" and not "the apple in the basket"?

Thank you all very much!


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