yantai_scot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4821 days ago 157 posts - 214 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German
| Message 1 of 5 16 May 2014 at 8:19pm | IP Logged |
I saw a documentary a few weeks ago about how deaf and hard of hearing people in the UK
are having real problems accessing equitable healthcare and legal assistance. There's
apparently a chronic lack of BSL interpreters and the stories have stayed with me. So
I've casually looked into learning BSL and the general training up to trainee
interpreter here in the UK, it goes like this:
Intro to BSL (6 months), Stage 1, Stage 2, Stage 3, Stage 6 (2 years to roughly
graduate standard) then the equivalent of a 1 year MSc in Interpretation- usually 2
years part time when I believe you can be working as an Interpreter but certain areas
such as law are prohibited.
Thus, the process allegedly takes at least 6 academic years for language proficiency, 8
years to get full qualification and the usual professional lifetime of CPD. The
training costs about £10,000 ($15,000) in total (which I don't have even in part). The
daily work would be appear to be a good fit.
However, the above timeline seems extremely unrealistic to get to the standard required
in a spoken language if you're not in a total immersion environment.
If anyone has experience of learning a sign language at any level, how does the
workload compare to learning a verbal language? I do not have any personal experience
of BSL right now.
Harsh reality check sought to bring me back to Earth with a bump.
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Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6678 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin
| Message 2 of 5 16 May 2014 at 10:09pm | IP Logged |
In Sweden it seems like the education is 3-4 years depending on what programme you choose to follow. Most sign
language education is not even academic, i.e. something one could get a degree in, but more like a craft.
I do know that the interpreters that work at the university for the sake of death students and professors work in
pairs, and interpret 15 minute each, on and on.
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Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5028 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian
| Message 3 of 5 17 May 2014 at 11:39am | IP Logged |
Hampie wrote:
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:-D thanks, Hampie! I'd like to study that degree. Handling the scythe (1 semester), riding extremely underfed horses (2 semesters), keeping up with the paperwork (1 semester), being extremely unbiased (3 semesters) and so on. And you'll be sure to find a job in your field!
Back to the topic. A friend of mine is studying the Czech sign language at university as a part of Communication with people with hearing condition (or something like that) degree. The standard degree takes 3 years to complete and I think you can continue the follow up for two more years.
It is surely a great path to take but perhaps, as you want to know the reality, it might be the best to take a short free course somewhere first. I don't know the situation in the UK, but we've got a few non profit organisations here who teach for free or very cheaply and you can take the basics of the sign language at university as well. So, I'd recommend you to look around and take a few weeks long course to find out whether the sign language is for you, how hard it is, compared to other languages, and how long is the path really gonna be.
From what I know from the small bits learnt at university or from my friend I've mentioned above, the sign languages tend to be grammatically easier (signing declinations is nonsense, even though there have been such attempts) and the language is surely affected by the "original" language since many members of the community use sign languge and read lips and they are, of course, literate in the "original" language. But you have much fewer methods of learning and reviewing compared to spoken/writen languages. No simple wordlists, even images are of limited help. You have videos and, most importantly, live classes.
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Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4670 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English
| Message 4 of 5 17 May 2014 at 12:33pm | IP Logged |
The overlap between spoken and sign is usually limited to vocabulary, as grammar can differ wildly.
The Czech Republic is unique (next to the US) in offering a degree on matters related to hearing-impairment and the Deaf culture.
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yantai_scot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4821 days ago 157 posts - 214 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German
| Message 5 of 5 18 May 2014 at 1:58am | IP Logged |
Thanks everyone. So it's not an unrealistic time frame at all? That's really
encouraging. :)
I've since emailed a semi-local organisation who've run training courses in the past
and they're running a 2 hour taster session next week which I'll try my hardest to get
to.
FYI: Heriott-Watt University in Scotland have recently begun a 4 year British Sign
Language degree for hearing students called British Sign Language (Interpreting,
Translating and Applied Language Studies). This, too, seems to start at the beginner's
level.
BSL degree
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