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Hampie
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 Message 17 of 20
07 July 2014 at 2:48am | IP Logged 
Most caffeine pills are dosed so that one pill equals one cup of coffee, though :p. At least the Swedish ones are.
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garyb
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 Message 18 of 20
07 July 2014 at 11:07am | IP Logged 
I've read a fair bit but not tried them much. I'm still trying to get my sleep in order and sort out my insomnia, as I agree that lifestyle is the most important thing. I'd rather get that fixed before I do any experimentation - I'd prefer to use them as an enhancement rather than some sort of compensation for inadequate sleep. I'm curious about Modafinil for example, but I'd rather see how far I can get with adequate sleep first! Plus my general experience is that there's no such thing as a free lunch and the positive effects of drugs always have to be "paid back" somehow: think hangovers/come-downs/etc. and the resulting tiredness, demotivated feelings, and health consequences. I'm not at all anti-drugs, and I think the occasional experience is worth it, but you have to be realistic.

I know people who've tried things like that and the common outcome seems to be that they're good if you have a very specific task to complete, but you can sometimes end up getting too focused on a small detail and waste hours on it instead of concentrating on the bigger picture. So that makes me think that it might be counter-productive for something as broad as language study unless you really want to focus on a particular aspect, like grammar etc. This is just speculation though, so I'm curious if anyone has first-hand experience.

As for MJ... the stuff ruins my speaking capabilities. And I love coffee but recently I've cut down a lot as I find that it makes my energy levels go up and down too much and it probably isn't helping the insomnia.

Edited by garyb on 07 July 2014 at 11:10am

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luke
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 Message 19 of 20
07 July 2014 at 11:51am | IP Logged 
garyb wrote:
I love coffee but recently I've cut down a lot as I find that it makes my energy levels go up
and down too much and it probably isn't helping the insomnia.


Agreed. In a microcosm, the caffeine experience is a lot like other "supplements". I agree with the earlier
posting about vitamin D though. Lots of people are deficient and some need high levels to get optimized.
For me, over 5000 IU a day puts me in the middle of optimal. It seems to help more with affect though.

High Intensity Interval Training I have found to have the most benefit to the mind.

Edited by luke on 07 July 2014 at 11:52am

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montmorency
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 Message 20 of 20
07 July 2014 at 8:52pm | IP Logged 
And the best way to get vitamin D is from the sun, e.g. while out walking and listening
to TL audio or talking to people.

(Sadly not available to all of us for much of the year though).


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