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| sctroyenne Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5186 days ago 739 posts - 1312 votes  Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish, Irish | Message 1 of 4 18 August 2014 at 7:03am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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So I've come up with a system of working with my Irish text which is entirely dialogue-based (Gaeilge gan Stró Lower Intermediate). I've been copying the dialogues and highlighting interesting/useful grammatical structures. I'd like to work on these outside of the context of the dialogues (which are often not covered in the grammar notes or by the exercises). An example would be:
Níor bhuail mé le railtóir aerthráachta riamh cheana! I've never met an air traffic controller before! Ní raibh mé féin dífhostaithe riamh. I've never been unemployed myself. So what I'm interested in learning (as useful as air traffic controller is) is the "I've never (verb+subject, etc) [before]" structure expressed in the bold portions. Question is, if I wanted to use Anki to "drill" these, what would be the most effective card setup? Or should I be thinking completely outside of Anki? Edited by sctroyenne on 18 August 2014 at 7:05am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| smallwhite Pentaglot Senior Member Australia Joined 5103 days ago 537 posts - 1045 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin, French, Spanish | Message 2 of 4 18 August 2014 at 10:41am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Anki will show you the card on days 0, 2, 6, 16, 39, 98, 244... (roughly). Is that what you'd like? I would prefer being shown on days 0, 0, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, and stop.
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 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6498 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 3 of 4 18 August 2014 at 11:28am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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The relevant parts of the structures are the first three words and the riamh-part (one or two words) at the end. So in your place I would see these elements as the equivalent of the single words or word combinations you normally learn through SRS and just quote the whole sentences as illustrations, not as something to be learnt.
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 emk Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5327 days ago 2615 posts - 8806 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchB2 Studies: Spanish, Ancient Egyptian Personal Language Map | Message 4 of 4 18 August 2014 at 1:20pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Khatzumoto has a really interesting setup for doing SRS with European languages. Basically, it has two boxes:
Here, my cloze pattern focuses on inflections and key grammatical words. This would create nine cards, one for each thing we asked to cloze. The individual cards would look something like:
He typically works with long texts, and long lists of things to cloze. This generates an absurd number of cards. Some of these cards will be ambiguous or useless. But as always, Khatzumoto recommends massive deletion of cards. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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