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| bryanpeabody Groupie United States Joined 4783 days ago 48 posts - 79 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 1 of 9 24 November 2014 at 4:00pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hi all,
Does anyone know if there are any differences in content (text and audio) between these two Spanish Assimil editions? 1994: http://www.amazon.com/Spanish-Ease-Language-Learning- Programs/dp/2700510704/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1416840656&sr= 8- 3&keywords=assimil+spanish 2014: http://www.amazon.com/Assimil-Spanish-Ease-SUPERPACK- audio/dp/2700580486/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416840656&sr=8-1 &keywords=assimil+spanish Thanks! Edited by bryanpeabody on 24 November 2014 at 4:15pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5363 days ago 938 posts - 1839 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 2 of 9 24 November 2014 at 5:28pm | IP Logged | ||
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There are totally different courses - the first is the older Spanish With Ease and the
second is the newer course. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Random review Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5581 days ago 781 posts - 1310 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin, Yiddish, German | Message 3 of 9 26 November 2014 at 12:21am | IP Logged | ||
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I had a quick look at the new Spanish one and some of the notes seem, well, odd. For
instance it has "hace una diferencia" for "it makes a difference", which sounded really odd to me. Aware that my own Spanish contains errors, I googled it to make sure and from what I can see on Wordreference threads, this does indeed seem to be wrong. At the very least it is not correct in many of the contexts where we use its English equivalent and should be flagged as such. I should stress that I'm only talking about the notes, I had previously listened to the audio for the original French version of this course and really liked it. Just a caution. Edit: I just checked an online copy of the French original and that particular note isn't in it. It must have been added by the translator of the English edition. I guess that both answers the question in the other thread about whether the notes are new and confirms my note of caution. Maybe a good rule of thumb for those who haven't time to compare with the French edition would be that if a sentence has accompanying audio, it will definitely have been in the French original and so can be trusted. Edited by Random review on 26 November 2014 at 12:32am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| mgr.graham Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5771 days ago 15 posts - 32 votes Speaks: English*, Latin Studies: Spanish, Ancient Greek, Indonesian, Malay | Message 4 of 9 26 November 2014 at 12:26am | IP Logged | ||
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I'm about a quarter of the way through the 2014 edition. I also own the previous edition.
It is a completely new course. The new dialogues are excellent and quite funny. The humor definitely aids retention of the material. I find myself rehearsing the dialogues spontaneously throughout the day without getting bored. I do not think the previous edition was quite as interesting. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Gomorritis Tetraglot Groupie Netherlands Joined 4076 days ago 91 posts - 157 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English, Catalan, French Studies: Greek, German, Dutch | Message 5 of 9 27 November 2014 at 9:53am | IP Logged | ||
It does sound quite bad to me. I would rather say "marca la diferencia". It's a very disappointing mistake, I thought Assimil had higher quality standards. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5363 days ago 938 posts - 1839 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 6 of 9 27 November 2014 at 10:54am | IP Logged | ||
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Looking at Linguee 'it makes a difference' does seem to be a relatively common
translation of 'hace una diferencia': http://www.linguee.com/english-spanish/search?source=spanish &query=hace+una+diferencia 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Gomorritis Tetraglot Groupie Netherlands Joined 4076 days ago 91 posts - 157 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English, Catalan, French Studies: Greek, German, Dutch | Message 7 of 9 27 November 2014 at 12:18pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well, I am quite sure it is not common in Spain at all. Actually, if I saw the sentence "hace una diferencia" out of a context, I would rather understand it as "makes a distinction" (like in the 5th example in that link, which is the only one that doesn't sound so bad to me, even though it would sound better if it said "hace una distinción").
It might be used in other countries though. Edited by Gomorritis on 27 November 2014 at 12:20pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Random review Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5581 days ago 781 posts - 1310 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin, Yiddish, German | Message 8 of 9 27 November 2014 at 1:06pm | IP Logged | ||
As I said in my post, I checked on wordreference.com and there are several posts from native speakers saying that "hacer una diferencia" is not correct. That doesn't necessarily mean it is always wrong (though it might be); it does mean that it definitely can't be used in many of the very common contexts that we use it in in English and should be flagged as such. I think it is telling that this note wasn't in the French original. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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