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 Message 113 of 116
13 December 2014 at 12:35am | IP Logged 
vonPeterhof wrote:
I s**t you not

Who came up with that syntax anyway?

Jeffers wrote:
In my limited experience, people who start a sentence with "I literally... " usually have
something stupid or inane to say,

Like when someone says, "I literally s**t my pants", and you start sniffing to find out if they're stupid
or not?

Edited by luke on 13 December 2014 at 12:49am

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13 December 2014 at 4:39am | IP Logged 
Ari wrote:
It's like saying "You shouldn't say 'pardon my French' unless you're actually speaking French.

I wonder what the French say
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13 December 2014 at 9:43am | IP Logged 
luke wrote:
vonPeterhof wrote:
I s**t you not

Who came up with that syntax anyway?

Your Google-fu is weak today, my friend.

Here's a discussion about "I kid you not", in which one person suggests it evolved into "I s**t you not". That makes sense to me.

Edited by Jeffers on 13 December 2014 at 9:43am

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21 December 2014 at 12:38pm | IP Logged 
ScottScheule wrote:
Yes, I've heard some language "authorities" (scare quotes
because these are simply people with popular blogs, not credentials) criticize some
learners for reasons that, at the end of the day, were not necessarily deficiencies in
their learning styles, but rather just a result of people seeking different goals.
Some want to read famous works, some want to talk at a "sophisticated" level, some
want to be able to make small talk with locals, some are just fascinated by different
grammars and sounds and don't mind just tasting languages. It complicates things
terribly, but nevertheless, these are all perfectly legitimate aims.

There's also the problem that before you sound sophisticated, you're going to sound
unsophisticated... this stage of "I feel like a clown" is something everyone learning
languages that is going through the upper levels where speaking well is important will

As for aural media, I do consume it, but I don't find anything interesting in
listening to something I can't understand, whereas with reading I can look it up.
That's why I start with speaking to human beings, because here I can listen in context
and figure out how natives truly speak.

Holy moly two-sentence run-on mix-up extravaganza!

Edited by tarvos on 21 December 2014 at 2:06pm

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