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Radioclare’s tac log 2015 (*jäŋe/*ledús) | ||
Tags: Macedonian | Serbian | Serbo-Croatian | Croatian | Esperanto | Total Annihilation Challenge (TAC) | ||
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| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4364 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes  Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 81 of 292 09 March 2015 at 9:20pm | IP Logged | |||||
Haha, maybe I should have looked up the definition of "challenge" before I signed up :) Someone very kindly corrected my text about quotes overnight for me on lang-8. Corrected version as follows:
Thoughts on those corrections: 1) I had deliberately written "Nisam sigurna da li imam" rather than "Nisam sigurna imam li" to see whether it got corrected. As far as I understand it, the construction which I used is perceived as "Serbian" while the construction in my correction is the proper "Croatian" way to express it. Unfortunately I find the Serbian way a lot easier. I guess I'm still struggling slightly to get used to expressing "whether" in this way and the Serbian version feels more natural for me because then at least I can tell myself that "da li" means "whether" in here and remember to write that (rather than accidentally write "ako" (if) which would be 100% wrong). The Croatian way, which avoids using "da", is going to need a lot more practise before it comes naturally. 2) I didn't know the word for email so I had looked it up in a dictionary and got "epošt". Now I feel silly for not just writing "email" :D 3) The nice person translated my quote for me and while they did change it from how I had phrased it, I was quite pleased because I felt like my version wasn't too far off. Overall I was happy with these corrections because I hadn't felt very positive about this text and expected it to be worse! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4364 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 82 of 292 09 March 2015 at 9:52pm | IP Logged | |||||
And while I was studying those corrections, my other text got corrected as well :) But this one has more mistakes unfortunately :(
Thoughts on these corrections... 1) The corrector said that my literal translation of "indoor activity" and "outdoor activity" sounded really strange. Instead, to convey the idea of an indoor activity he proposed the phrase "Unutar četiri zida" (inside four walls). 2) I knew there was some complication in Croatian about the words for "to lend" and "to borrow" and so I made I wild guess and gambled on "pozajmiti" being the correct verb to use in the case of borrowing a book from a library. It turns out that "pozajmiti" implies the sort of borrowing where you would be paying interest, so the correct verb to use in the case of library books is "posuditi". 3) cvijet (flower) is masculine but cvijeće (flowers) are neuter. Obviously :D 4) Somehow I have mis-learned the word for Switzerland as "Svičarska" when it's actually "Svicarska". No idea how that happened. I suspect I must have mistyped it into Memrise! My corrector suggested I go away and study the difference between perfective and imperfective verbs. Ouch. But a fair point. When I first saw my text covered in red pen, I felt a bit disheartened. But actually having just been through the corrections a few times now, although there were a lot of mistakes, there are also a lot of things that I wasn't sure whether I was getting right and that I actually did, so that is encouraging in it's own way :) 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4947 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 83 of 292 09 March 2015 at 10:48pm | IP Logged | |||||
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This challenge risks having only one winner =D
I started writing a fable in Georgian. Hope I can keep the story simple in terms of creativity and work on my main difficulties. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4364 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 84 of 292 09 March 2015 at 11:43pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Haha we will have to see how long this enthusiasm lasts!
Writing a fable sounds really cool :) And so glad to read that you managed to get your Georgian text corrected! It really does make a big difference getting the corrections, even if they are painful sometimes. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4364 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 85 of 292 13 March 2015 at 11:51pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Today was a momentous day because I FINALLy finished reading
Krv Bogova. Goodness, I feel like I have been reading this book for months! It definitely does not rank on the list of most exciting books I have read in any language. I chose it because it's the fifth novel in series of five about the life of Julius Caesar and I enjoyed (most of) the previous four books. Unfortunately (spoiler!) Caesar gets murdered at the end of the fourth book and, perhaps understandably, the fifth book lacked a little something without the main character. Anyway, now I can move on to reading something else! Although I don't know what yet and I potentially have some English reading I want to do on my commute. We shall see. My log is long overdue an update on my (lack of) Macedonian progress and the extremely poor effort that was my 6WC. I'm currently in 40th place - go me! I don't have a very good excuse for this beyond lack of mental energy. Over the past couple of days I have, however, started working through the first chapter of the beginners course at the Macedonian Language E-learning Center. I know I have linked to this website a couple of times before, but I honestly can't recommend it highly enough. It would be a great resource in any language, but for a language like Macedonian where resources are so thin on the ground it is absolutely amazing :) EDIT: I forgot to say I'm extremely excited today because we've just booked flights to Lithuania in August. Although I think life may be too short to learn Lithuanian :D Edited by Radioclare on 13 March 2015 at 11:52pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4947 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 86 of 292 14 March 2015 at 9:03pm | IP Logged | |||||
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When you mention this Macedonian site, it reminds me of the great serbianschool site which seems to be no longer at work ;/
Good luck with Lithuanian. I agree with your statement (also because I'd perhaps learn Latvian first if I had the chance), but maybe learning the basic sentences won't hurt? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4364 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 87 of 292 14 March 2015 at 10:00pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I wasn't familiar with that site but it's always sad when good resources disappear :(
I will definitely try to learn some survival phrases in Lithuanian before I go. I went to Vilnius briefly a couple of years ago and was stunned by how well people spoke English, but we're going for a week this time and hoping to travel around the country a bit, so I imagine there might be more need for a bit of Lithuanian. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4364 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 88 of 292 15 March 2015 at 7:40pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Feel a bit tired today - I think I stayed up a bit too late watching an episode of
'Budva', but it was really exciting again :) This morning I had a bit of free time to spend on the Output Challenge. The next writing prompt was: If you could throw any kind of party, what would it be like and what would it be for? Goodness, I am starting to regret publicly committing to going through these writing prompts in order because I have never met anyone who hates parties as much as I do and I have very little to say on the theme :D I have managed a miserable 266 words!
Quick translation: I hate parties. I'm an introvert and I don't like being in a crowded room, too full of people and loud music. I'd rather go home and read a good book on my own. So I can't remember ever having organised a party or anything similar, and I can't think of a reason for which I would do that. When I was a child I used to have birthday parties, which were good because as a child I only wanted to get presents and eat cake, but I can't think of a party which I've enjoyed since I became an adult. Every year we have a Christmas party at my workplace, and that is always dreadful, at least for me. The alcohol is always free and because of that it seems to me that all my colleagues intentionally drink too much. I like drinking free wine too, but I think there ought to be some kind of boundaries when I'm with colleagues. The thing which bothers me the most is that without exception some colleagues drink too much at the party and end up sleeping together. Most frequently it is married people who behave like that. I even know one woman who is divorced because she slept with her boss. Stupidity! So I don't like those kinds of parties at all. If I were going to organise a party, it would be without colleagues, without loud music and without free alcohol. I prefer small gatherings, so I would only invite a few people who I know well. I'm sure that there would be a big cake, because cake isn't just something for children :) 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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