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| guiguixx1 Octoglot Senior Member Belgium guillaumelp.wordpres Joined 3878 days ago 163 posts - 207 votes  Speaks: French*, English, Dutch, Portuguese, Esperanto, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Polish, Mandarin | Message 1 of 3 13 March 2015 at 6:10pm | IP Logged |
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I am beginning study Polish using the French Assimil, and plan to study one lesson each
day. I should thus finish the book in a bit more than 3 months. I plan on visiting a Polish friend in August, and wanted to reach at least A1, and if possible A1-A2, in order to be able to speak a bit of Polish. I know the method says that I would reach B2, but I doubt it. I actually don't really know what to except, since it's the first time I study with an Assimil... and since it's my first slavic language, I have no idea how long it will take me to begin speaking the language... I have no knowledge of slavic languages, I only know roman and Germanic language. I this goal doable? Do I need more time? Or should I work more intensively, like going through 2 lesson each day and work in 1,5 months with other materials? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Speakeasy Senior Member Canada Joined 3838 days ago 507 posts - 1098 votes Studies: German | Message 2 of 3 14 March 2015 at 12:38am | IP Logged |
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Hello guiguixx1,
I have a copy of the 2003 edition of Assimil Le Polonais by Barbara Kuszmider. As for virtually all of the Assimil language courses, this one is well-conceived. Now, I am about to offer some potentially unpopular opinions... Level Achieved? I find the publisher's assertion that one can attain a B2 CEFR Level with their "Sans Peine" courses, or the equivalent, to be quite optimistic. I would suggest that a more realistic achievement would be somewhere between A2 and B1, depending on how much time and effort are put into using this course. Course Notes Given the number of languages that you already speak, or are studying, you are most likely familiar with Assimil method. So, let us agree that the only true weakness of the Assimil approach lies in the notes that accompany the dialogues. In my experience what Assimil says is often correct; however the way they say it, in the individual lesson units, does not lead to a clear understanding of what may be a broader, and far more complex grammatical issue. Given the particular "distance" that separates the Slavic languages from the Germanic and Romance languages, I find that their notes are inadequate. So, I would recommend that you keep both a Grammar and a Book of Verbs at hand while using the Assimil Le Polonais course. Goal of A2 by August? I assume that you want to cover all of the material in each of the 100 lessons and that you would like to be able to use your newly-acquired language skills in common, predictable situations. You have given yourself four and half months, or about 1,3 days per lesson. Although you are an experienced language-learner, and although many people would say that you have enough time before you, I am under the impression that this goal is "a bridge too far", unless you can devote many hours a day, every day, to this project. I do not think that doubling the lessons per day is a viable solution; rather, increased concentration on each individual lesson is required. In other words, unless you can simulate a true "full immersion" setting, I do not think that you can "cram" this amount of learning into the time alloted. Perhaps a more realistic goal would be to concentrate on the first 50 lessons only and, having reached this level, of reviewing this material as often as possible before you visit Poland. Chung Is The Guru! I am under the impression that CHUNG has created several posts on Polish. The only link that I have been able to find is the POLISH PROFILE. Edited by Speakeasy on 14 March 2015 at 12:53am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Lusan Diglot Newbie United States Joined 3728 days ago 35 posts - 53 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Polish | Message 3 of 3 14 March 2015 at 3:03pm | IP Logged |
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I am using Assimil Polish after doing RS, Supermemo bez+ and a little grammar at the side.
I guess that my level is between A1 and A2. I could hold small talk conversations and answer the phone. My target is B1 by next year end. Currently I do 1 lesson a day, about 1.0 hr. I am in lesson #20. To improve reading and vocabulary I signed up in Linqg. I also do about 30 min of Anki, etc. Overall, I spent about 2 hrs per day for the last 12 months. Though my experience with Polish Assimil is limited, I feel that it would be very hard to do it in 3 months without having prior knowledge of the language. Consider that Assimil has 2500 or so new words. It comes out to be about 25 new words day. A tough call, I think. I already know 75 % of the Assimil's words because of my prior studies. I doubt that I could do a lesson a day if I were starting from zero. Because the language and the grammar are so different to Spanish, English and French. I know fluently English and Spanish. I used to speak French that but that was 40 years ago. I have my doubt that it is possible to reach B1 in 1 YEAR without very intensive work. Good luck If I were starting again, I would do first Supermemo bez+1 (it took me 6 months) and then follow it with Assimil (I guess 4 months disregarding the grammar notes.). Of course, Anki is a very important part of the game. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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