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| DrX Newbie Ireland Joined 3319 days ago 18 posts - 21 votes Speaks: English* | Message 1 of 7 11 April 2015 at 2:57pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hi,
On the michel thomas German courses, he instructs to pronounce ung as unk with a sharp k sound. Throughout my further studies I have never heard this anywhere. Although I did hear once a German radio news programme pronounce washington as washinkton. So maybe he got mixed up. A thread from a few years back also said he mistaught lange and lan-ge. Does anyone know if UNK is some obscure regional variant? or did he go mad in his old age :D 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Doitsujin Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5119 days ago 1256 posts - 2363 votes  Speaks: German*, English | Message 2 of 7 11 April 2015 at 6:29pm | IP Logged | ||
AFAIK, in standard German, the ending -ung is supposed to be pronounced as [ʊŋ]. For example, Richtung [ˈrɪçtʊŋ]. (For those not familiar with IPA, [ŋ] is the "g" sound in the English word finger.) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Silvance Diglot Groupie United States Joined 5293 days ago 57 posts - 81 votes Speaks: English*, Pashto Studies: Dari | Message 3 of 7 12 April 2015 at 3:28pm | IP Logged | ||
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I was taught in my college German class that anything ending in "ung" was pronounced
"unk." My instructor was a native speaker, so it could be dialectical I guess. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Random review Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5582 days ago 781 posts - 1310 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin, Yiddish, German | Message 4 of 7 12 April 2015 at 4:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thomas was wrong but some German speakers do pronounce it his way. I think it must be a
dialect issue as Silvance says. He gets a few things wrong that are far more important than this issue in his German course (due, I think, to interference from his native Yiddish), such as the meaning of "Sie müssen nicht", etc; but it's still his best course IMO and without doubt one of the best language courses I've ever experienced. The problems come if you don't use his courses the way he tells you to, specifically if you try to learn the course. YOU MUSTN'T DO THAT AND HE HIMSELF SAID NOT TO! Simply work through the course and you will internalise the basic grammar of the language, THEN MOVE ON. At most you might repeat the course once after a break of a few weeks, but no more than that. I've had this argument before on here and plenty of better learners than me disagree, but the above is my strong opinion FWIW. Edited by Random review on 12 April 2015 at 4:06pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4033 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek | Message 5 of 7 12 April 2015 at 4:14pm | IP Logged | ||
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I agree on the point that you definitely shouldn't pay too much attention to his pronunciation. You have millions of native speakers do to that with :)
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| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4708 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 6 of 7 12 April 2015 at 7:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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Here's a good source for checking pronunciation:
http://www.forvo.com/word/richtung/ 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| DrX Newbie Ireland Joined 3319 days ago 18 posts - 21 votes Speaks: English* | Message 7 of 7 12 April 2015 at 8:18pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks,
Hmmm yes it must be regional as my college instructor always seemed surprised when I would say UNK but never shocked as in that I had it wrong and never corrected me. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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