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| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 3847 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes  Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 1 of 10 23 April 2015 at 11:23am | IP Logged | |||||
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Hi people of HTLAL,
can you please advice me a Portuguese (Portugal) grammar written in Spanish or Portuguese? Thank you very much! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Luso Hexaglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 5861 days ago 819 posts - 1812 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, EnglishC2, GermanB1, Italian, Spanish Studies: Sanskrit, Arabic (classical) | Message 2 of 10 23 April 2015 at 1:13pm | IP Logged | |||||
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That will depend on the level you want.
In the mean time, you might want to check this online grammar. Note #1: I don't own a grammar anymore, so I don't know whether I'll be able to help eventually, but I'll try. The advantage will be to have a native speaker looking for it. Note #2: in the (few and far between) cases when I have doubts, I just go online and type what I want; many times, I get sent to Brazilian sites, which is ok, as there's no difference between Portugal and Brazil when it comes to the official grammar. In any case, I'm really tired of that debate here in the forum, so let's not go there. You want PT-PT, that's what I'll try to help you with. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4468 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 3 of 10 23 April 2015 at 1:18pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Nova Gramática do Português Contemporâneo - 6ª Ed. 2013
by Cintra, Lindley; Cunha, Celso 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 3847 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 4 of 10 23 April 2015 at 2:19pm | IP Logged | |||||
Hi @Luso. Thank you very much for your support! My goal is to learn the European version of Portuguese, because I live in Europe. I know the pronunciation and certain words are different, like or a bit more than British vs American English. If there's no difference between Portuguese and Brazilian portuguese when it comes to grammar, it's ok for me to use indistinctly one of the two! Thank you for this information. About the level I want. I'm a total beginner. But I'm Italian and I learned Spanish, and French. I can read Portuguese texts and the grammar is supposedly similar to the ones of Spanish, Italian and French. I think it's safe to start with an intermediate grammar that brings to an advanced level. Of course I'm open to advices. Thank you again!
wow this is expensive :S 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5062 days ago 2237 posts - 6731 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French) | Message 5 of 10 23 April 2015 at 4:46pm | IP Logged | |||||
A grammar from Portugal that I've found useful and that I consult regularly is Gramática de português para estrangeiros at about €19 from Amazon.es. It's monolingual Portuguese.
I know you haven't asked for correction, but I've noticed you make this mistake routinely. The word advice is not plural in English. One doesn't ask for advices, one asks for advice. I only point it out because it seems to be a consistent error and is probably fossilized, and it doesn't look like anyone else is willing. Boa sorte com os seus estudos no idioma português! Edited by iguanamon on 23 April 2015 at 4:49pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6397 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 6 of 10 23 April 2015 at 5:39pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I was taught to say "piece of advice" if you really need to make it singular. Or you can say tip(s) sometimes. (It's one of those cases where English is a weirdo globally, I think. how is advice different from statements or ideas?)
As for the original topic, the biggest differences are in the very basics, I'd say. You might like this article by Benny too, though it focuses on Brazilian Portuguese. And you have a fb message with a link I can't post here ;) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 3847 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 7 of 10 24 April 2015 at 6:27pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I'm sure that I already answered to @Luso's unit of advice :D
Well. Thank you very much for the correction! I think I said "advices" thousands of times and the automatic corrector also never corrected me so you're the very first! Please feel free to correct me!! Thank you for the advice on the book. I couldn't find reviews on Amazon. Are there exercises on it or it is a reference grammar? Thanks again! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5062 days ago 2237 posts - 6731 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French) | Message 8 of 10 24 April 2015 at 6:57pm | IP Logged | |||||
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You're welcome, tristano. The book I have has no exercises. It's a reference, and a very good one at that. I'ts from Porto Editora in Portugal and intended for foreigners as the title says.
Have a look at this page at word reference forum for more detail about advices. I tested it out with my spelling corrector too on Firefox and it doesn't correct it. I was curious, so, I consulted word reference. Apparently, the word is used in rare cases in certain business contexts. This is another example of why spelling correction can't be trusted 100% of the time- it can't judge a word in context, yet. Edited by iguanamon on 25 April 2015 at 8:51pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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