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luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7203 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French
| Message 1 of 10 04 October 2006 at 10:32pm | IP Logged |
I found a set of podcasts for Don Quixote. The first chapter starts about 19 minutes into the podcast that contains the 1st chapter. If you search the fine web, you can find another website that has the complete book up in asf format. This isn't the computer reading the book, which is out there too, but no one has ever made it through that version. I found a site with a small glossary for Cervantes' obra maestra. Amazon has a modern translation. The Real Español Academy has a 400th anniversary edition out that has notes to help one understand archaic language usage.
Edited by luke on 04 October 2006 at 10:39pm
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| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7203 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French
| Message 2 of 10 25 November 2006 at 6:29pm | IP Logged |
In reading my notes from Ardaschir, I came across this gem:
Ardaschir wrote:
For instance, there is no contesting the fact that Cervantes, "Don Quijote" is the single most important work in all of Spanish literature, and that it also holds an extremely high rank in the canon of monuments of world literature. Someone who has a well-balanced, well-rounded education will have read such a work. To the person who wants to read it but was put off by the many unfamiliar nouns, I would say this: don't put it off! The only way to build your vocabulary to read it is to sit down and read it. The idea of a simplified version horrifies me, but an annotated version, with the archaic vocabulary at the bottom of each page, surely makes perfect sense. However, if you can follow the story, if you just read through the entire work, you will get much of the vocabulary from context. Granted, you may have to read it more than once, but it is more than worth it. While I would not venture to match my Spanish against that of anyone from Spain or Mexico, I can and have read both Cervantes and Gabriel García Márquez with both pleasure and understanding. Indeed, I really would not venture to say that I knew Spanish if I had not done so. I am well aware that most people, including most members of this forum, view "knowing" a language as meaning being about to communicate effectively with living contemporary speakers, but for me this ability is simply an additional benefit of really knowing a language, which means knowing whence it came and how it got to be what it is, and knowing the content of the literature and thought that has been expressed in it. |
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So now I'm seriously thinking about approaching Cervantes' magnum opus. Since the vocabulary is one of the challenging parts, I wrote a little program to find the most frequent words. The program isn't smart enough to recognize all forms yet, but it does recognize some of the more popular forms and maps them to an infinitive. It also recognizes some plurals and maps them to a singular. It can give one a heads up for words that will be repeated a lot. In the list below, the number is a count of the times a word is repeated. These are the words repeated 40 or more times. There are 704 words in the list. This represents about 79% of the words in the text.
20628 que
18213 de
18189 y
10363 la
9824 a
8242 en
8210 el
6335 no
5695 ser
4762 haber
4748 los
4691 se
4401 su
4202 con
3940 por
3745 le
3695 decir
3501 un
3468 las
3461 lo
2691 todo
2648 don
2491 del
2345 me
2264 como
2175 quijote
2148 sancho
2093 mi
2077 yo
2044 más
2011 este
1966 si
1843 tener
1737 al
1566 otro
1544 él
1525 estar
1463 para
1395 porque
1376 ni
1243 tan
1220 hacer
1214 señor
1213 o
1171 poder
1167 responder
1156 sin
1142 vuestro
1065 así
1050 bien
1014 pero
1007 querer
1000 saber
954 caballero
916 mucho
900 merced
886 esto
865 pues
849 qué
847 cual
794 cosa
785 ya
779 tanto
757 cuando
737 dar
731 ella
726 te
726 ir
694 sino
692 aquello
684 dos
676 parecer
674 donde
667 bueno
651 fue
618 quien
592 algun
582 tal
543 mano
535 muy
531 dios
531 aunque
516 aquí
515 señora
514 día
506 poco
502 mí
487 aquel
481 nuestro
467 ver
467 tu
465 parte
463 os
459 mal
456 llegar
454 sobre
450 nos
443 pasar
442 buen
432 verdad
432 duque
421 allí
415 mío
414 venir
404 quedar
398 vez
397 deber
395 dejar
394 mundo
390 luego
386 hasta
374 entre
373 dicho
370 tiempo
366 ahora
362 hombre
356 vida
350 uno
350 amigo
347 menos
346 sí
345 lugar
340 gran
336 poner
335 mejor
335 eso
334 hijo
334 casa
330 pie
329 panza
329 padre
328 manera
322 grande
317 llamar
313 cura
312 llevar
311 voz
307 puesto
306 escudero
304 ojo
297 amo
294 dio
291 antes
288 fuera
285 visto
283 algún
282 dulcinea
281 nuevo
275 cómo
274 tierra
272 palabra
272 hecho
270 quién
269 libro
266 hallar
265 tú
259 aun
258 volver
256 tomar
252 cielo
249 historia
248 vio
245 camino
240 salir
240 mas
238 cuanto
234 tres
234 también
234 fin
234 desta
230 malo
226 mujer
224 solo
221 cada
220 aventura
219 mesmo
216 replicar
215 cabeza
214 cuenta
212 vos
211 punto
211 noche
207 fuese
206 rocinante
206 preguntar
205 andar
203 vuesa
200 razon
199 mayor
197 sólo
197 caballo
197 andante
196 después
193 gusto
192 hermoso
191 mil
190 primero
188 oh
186 pensar
185 persona
183 año
183 acabar
181 dueño
180 pensamiento
180 nombre
178 mismo
177 duda
176 adelante
175 mancha
174 gobernador
170 modo
170 arma
170 amor
169 sacar
169 oír
169 desde
168 brazo
167 barbero
166 nada
164 según
163 toboso
163 criado
162 sido
162 dado
162 andantes
160 voluntad
160 cuatro
159 deseo
157 gente
155 ventura
154 nunca
154 famoso
153 rostro
153 mandar
153 hora
153 capítulo
153 alma
152 razón
151 viendo
151 entender
150 siempre
150 ningun
150 muerte
149 fueron
149 agora
148 menester
148 deste
148 cuerpo
148 camila
147 doncella
144 entonces
143 caballería
143 alguno
142 nadie
142 lotario
142 cristiano
141 suerte
141 suelo
140 venta
140 jamás
140 corazón
140 castillo
138 anselmo
137 vino
137 rey
135 fernando
133 finalmente
132 dél
132 comencar
132 blanco
131 rico
130 caso
129 fuerza
127 oído
127 memoria
127 contra
127 algo
125 mitad
125 loco
125 delante
124 fama
124 causa
123 posible
123 hermosura
122 obra
122 cierto
120 contento
119 rucio
118 ventero
117 vestido
117 demás
116 hacía
116 están
115 ínsula
115 casi
114 dello
113 tocar
113 suyo
113 gobierno
113 figura
112 espada
112 enemigo
112 ello
111 nosotros
111 esposo
111 dorotea
110 siendo
109 pena
109 bachiller
108 junto
107 triste
107 muerto
106 intención
106 hermano
106 boca
105 ocasión
105 buscar
104 pueblo
104 della
104 apenas
103 pedro
103 pedir
102 lengua
102 ciudad
101 moro
101 cardenio
100 ninguno
100 medio
100 lágrima
100 estado
99 traer
99 pastor
99 luscinda
99 comer
98 pobre
98 encantador
97 hablar
97 dinero
97 carta
97 adonde
96 vista
96 creo
95 orden
94 valeroso
94 traía
94 oro
93 primera
93 diablo
93 aposento
92 fe
92 estando
91 éste
91 conmigo
90 dando
90 cabo
89 pudiera
89 mira
89 entrar
88 cuento
88 asno
87 teresa
87 suele
87 letra
87 dieron
86 trabajo
86 puerta
86 mozo
86 mañana
86 largo
85 pecho
85 mesma
85 campo
84 valor
84 juicio
84 gana
84 dé
84 autor
84 aún
83 tras
82 ti
82 sazón
82 cuya
82 cuantos
81 libertad
81 entendimiento
81 batalla
80 sean
80 quizá
80 natural
80 madre
79 falta
79 desgracia
79 caballerías
78 zoraida
78 sucedir
78 sol
78 peligro
78 marido
78 luz
78 locura
78 honra
78 ésta
78 cerca
78 allá
77 seis
77 misma
76 mercedes
76 hoy
76 debajo
76 agua
75 silencio
75 sansón
75 remedio
75 presto
75 fortuna
75 españa
75 doña
74 semejantes
74 licencia
74 jumento
74 ama
73 priesa
73 discreto
73 deseos
72 venían
72 reino
72 fuere
72 espacio
72 escudo
72 entró
72 e
72 cuán
71 labrador
71 hidalgo
71 doncellas
71 condición
70 gracias
69 quisiere
69 pensaba
69 leído
69 haré
69 cuyo
68 suceso
68 sobrino
68 par
68 hazañas
67 suya
67 pasado
67 espalda
67 creer
66 virtud
66 tenido
66 ley
66 bosque
65 silla
65 sangre
65 pan
65 muestras
65 leer
65 esperar
65 barbas
65 antonio
65 ánimo
64 verso
64 señal
64 principio
64 noticia
64 lanza
64 grandeza
64 discurso
64 culpa
63 verde
63 maese
63 edad
63 ansí
62 temor
62 oyendo
62 dormir
62 dónde
62 altisidora
62 ahí
61 vea
61 sucesos
61 ningún
61 diez
61 daño
61 consigo
61 consejo
61 compañía
61 azotes
60 valiente
60 tuviese
60 tienes
60 resolución
60 renegado
60 provecho
60 hallado
60 haciendo
60 enamorado
60 dolor
60 diese
60 carrasco
59 vi
59 suelen
59 presente
59 paz
59 mar
59 libre
59 hambre
58 vieron
58 venga
58 principal
58 oídos
58 necesidad
58 mirar
58 media
57 sois
57 poeta
57 licenciado
57 dijese
57 destos
57 caer
57 ante
56 veinte
56 reina
56 quitar
56 oficio
56 lado
56 gigante
56 encantado
56 alta
56 aldea
55 vencido
55 reales
55 princesa
55 lleno
55 lejos
55 encima
55 discreción
54 siglo
54 risa
54 plática
54 mirando
54 esperando
54 ejercicio
54 darle
54 aire
54 acaso
53 servir
53 prosiguió
53 mujeres
53 miedo
53 hacienda
53 fuego
53 destas
53 dentro
53 cuidado
53 carro
52 verdadera
52 roque
52 diciéndole
52 decís
52 contar
52 claro
52 basilio
52 asimismo
52 acuerdo
51 sucedido
51 servido
51 segunda
51 presencia
51 negocio
51 montesinos
51 historias
51 escrito
51 contó
51 burla
50 verdadero
50 señoras
50 ruido
50 puesta
50 presentes
50 justicia
50 fuerzas
50 efecto
50 cabello
49 santa
49 salud
49 pesar
49 huésped
49 disparates
49 diré
49 dejado
49 bondad
49 acá
48 verdaderamente
48 término
48 respuesta
48 real
48 paje
48 hacia
48 género
48 especialmente
48 emperador
48 conocido
47 vuelto
47 propósito
47 pesadumbre
47 perder
47 opinión
47 muestra
47 efeto
47 cólera
47 cinco
47 cargo
47 aquél
46 venido
46 todavía
46 tarde
46 sabio
46 primo
46 mirad
46 llegado
46 ingenio
46 imaginación
46 fueran
46 entiendo
46 darme
46 cueva
46 cortesía
46 conocer
46 cabrero
45 viento
45 sueño
45 pudiese
45 peor
45 mesa
45 instante
45 gloria
45 general
45 favor
45 estremo
45 esperanza
45 cuál
45 albarda
44 vivo
44 leonela
44 honestidad
44 hechos
44 guerra
44 fuesen
44 desdichado
44 corte
44 capitán
44 buscando
44 belleza
44 basta
44 arriba
44 árboles
44 amadís
43 subir
43 primer
43 diego
43 di
43 contado
43 clara
43 cautivo
43 adónde
42 venganza
42 rodríguez
42 mono
42 llamado
42 linaje
42 jardín
42 imposible
42 fuerte
42 doce
42 alto
41 viaje
41 verá
41 traje
41 tornó
41 señas
41 seguro
41 escribir
41 armado
41 amistad
41 alcanzar
41 agravio
41 abajo
40 verse
40 veras
40 quiteria
40 papel
40 oidor
40 luna
40 hiciese
40 fui
40 costumbre
40 contrario
40 cama
40 alzó
40 alegre
40 admiración
Edited by luke on 27 November 2006 at 8:58pm
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| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7203 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French
| Message 3 of 10 25 November 2006 at 6:33pm | IP Logged |
One can find the text to Don Quijote online at Project Gutenberg.
By the way, the program counted 22561 different words in Cervantes' classic, but that figure is somewhat overstated the program doesn't distinguish between many plurals, verb forms, adjectives, etc.
Edited by luke on 27 November 2006 at 8:56pm
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| frenkeld Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6941 days ago 2042 posts - 2719 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German
| Message 4 of 10 27 November 2006 at 10:28am | IP Logged |
Luke,
there is also a heavily annotated online version of Don Quijote with very convenient pop-up comments. You can find it here.
P.S. A search on "don quijote mp3" turned up a few interesting links, including this one.
Edited by frenkeld on 27 November 2006 at 10:49am
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| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7203 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French
| Message 5 of 10 27 November 2006 at 9:06pm | IP Logged |
frenkeld wrote:
There is also a heavily annotated online version of Don Quijote with very convenient pop-up comments. You can find it here.
A search on "don quijote mp3" turned up a few interesting links, including this one. |
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The annotated online version is interesting. It looks to be annotated about as much as the RAE 400th anniversary edition, but the annotations are not identical.
The link to the mp3s is exactly what I wanted to find. Those are the original recordings that the weekly podcast was including, but you found the whole shebang.
By the way, I've updated the word list in the post above a couple of times since I originally generated the list.
Edited by luke on 27 November 2006 at 9:13pm
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| Message 6 of 10 01 December 2006 at 6:08am | IP Logged |
Luke
I'm very interested in this program you wrote, which counts the words of a given text. I was thinking of counting the words based on their occurence, but not in books, but in transcripts of speech, dialogues, news services and so on.. to see the most frequent words used in everyday oral speech. there are some news services.. like the unradio for instance, that provide the transcript of their news service word by word in 7 languages. a great site by the way.
http://radio.un.org/es/
If you could share this program, I'd be very interested.
Edited by Vlad on 01 December 2006 at 6:10am
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| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7203 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French
| Message 7 of 10 01 December 2006 at 6:21am | IP Logged |
The program is incomplete and unpolished right now.
Edited by luke on 01 December 2006 at 9:39am
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As a professional Perl programmar, my eyes have started bleeding. :)
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