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| ToxaMI Triglot Newbie France Joined 3211 days ago 6 posts - 6 votes Speaks: Russian*, French, English | Message 9 of 11 25 July 2015 at 10:03am | IP Logged | |||||
I believe that we should learn languages to speak with people. It means that we must learn from people, not from any kind of machines/algorithms. Basically you can say that you speak a language, only if you can speak with others speaking in this language. The greater their level is, the better we know this language. And it is considered that native speakers have naturally the best level of knowledge. In this regards the robarb's idea seems to be more promising, as we learn from real situations with native speakers involved. Nevertheless in future probably machines will be able to simulate the sufficient level of language.. we'll see :) Edited by ToxaMI on 25 July 2015 at 10:04am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| soclydeza85 Senior Member United States Joined 3701 days ago 357 posts - 502 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, French | Message 10 of 11 25 July 2015 at 8:04pm | IP Logged | |||||
Oh I don't mean for it to replace any kind of native exposure at all, I just mean something that will get you used to replying to people Hello, how are you? I'm well, how can I help you? I need headache medicine, where is the nearest pharmacy? Oh, not far from here, go up this street....... Some programs try to do this but, because it's prerecorded audio, it will always ask the same way and reply the same way and with the same gap of time for you to reply. Maybe you pronounced "headache medicine" in a strange way, it asks for you to clarify. Maybe there's something else you need and it would be better to go to one pharmacy over the other, so on and so forth. In fact, imagine a program that you could debate politics with. This program would be able to form it's own opinions, decided whether or not yours make sense (or compare what you say to a database of statistical data), pass judgement on your opinions and decide whether or not it likes you, etc. With artificial intelligence like that, I think language learning would be the least of our worries... Edited by soclydeza85 on 25 July 2015 at 8:05pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| freakyaye Senior Member Australia Joined 4632 days ago 107 posts - 152 votes | Message 11 of 11 02 August 2015 at 5:26am | IP Logged | |||||
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I find what works for me best is continuous correction. This is hard to have without a teacher around.
I'd like software that could present me with stories, short things that would be based on the grammar points and vocabulary I had not seen yet. Adaptive software really. And as others have said, we cannot forget the human element of language learning, I would like this software to included pre-recorded face-to-face tutorials (much like fluenz and others). So before reading I am presented with some learning, then launch into reading a more complicated text that also involves review of what I have learnt previously. Then, for the words or grammar points that I'm not familiar with I would like mini tutorial videos to lead me through their meaning, with examples in other sentences and of native speakers using the phrases including reactions and the like. All this software exists, but not one piece that does it all. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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