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| primosanchez Diglot Newbie United States Joined 6290 days ago 32 posts - 32 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 1 of 7 30 December 2015 at 2:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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what would you recommend as a method to maintain some ability in one while focusing
mostly on the other? I learned Spanish growing up. Never became truly fluent but could have non-advanced conversations no problem. I since married someone who speaks Portuguese and then started focusing mostly on that language. Now my Portuguese is decent, still not as good as my Spanish used to be but I can have somewhat normal conversations. However, we're now moving to a Spanish speaking country so I need to get back to Spanish. I tried having a conversation the other day and I still retained most of it, but I spoke much slower and Portuguese words snuck in here and there. Long story short, I need to get my Spanish to a good level (preferably low level advanced) but definitely want to still be able to speak Portuguese with my wife. Bad idea? Sure, but what technique do you think would help the most? Keep them separated, study Spanish on my own and still talk to my wife in Portuguese? Spanish 5 days a week, Portuguese 2? Appreciate any ideas Edited by Fasulye on 19 January 2016 at 9:39pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6581 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 2 of 7 30 December 2015 at 2:33pm | IP Logged | ||
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See this wikia article.
You need to learn to switch between them, so don't artificially keep them separate. Be sure to watch movies or other stuff in Portuguese with your wife. Make sure she understands it's important for you not to speak Portuñol (she probably won't correct you much if at all). If you have any interest in linguistics, learning more about how Spanish and Portuguese developed from Latin should help. I really like the book "Spanish vocabulary: an etymological approach" which has a lot of examples from Portuguese too. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| primosanchez Diglot Newbie United States Joined 6290 days ago 32 posts - 32 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 3 of 7 04 January 2016 at 12:20pm | IP Logged | ||
Thanks for the link. I feel like I need to keep them artificially separated in order to not mix words, but we'll see. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6581 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 4 of 7 04 January 2016 at 2:29pm | IP Logged | ||
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By artificial I mostly meant separating by the day of the week, which limits your chances to practise them. It's fine to associate them with different colours, places or whatever if you don't overdo it. Much like with mnemonics, these associations should eventually just create your Spanish or Portuguese "feeling".
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| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5150 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 5 of 7 05 January 2016 at 12:57pm | IP Logged | ||
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Try writing some short texts/paragraphs about the same subjects (it can be yourself, daily life) in both languages alternately. You can start once with Spanish and then write Portuguese, next time start with Portuguese to avoid one language influencing the other all the time.
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| hulk___smash Newbie United Kingdom fsi-language-courses Joined 3257 days ago 2 posts - 5 votes Speaks: Portuguese | Message 6 of 7 05 January 2016 at 5:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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I learnt Brazilian Portuguese after living in Brazil for two years. I've been in
Medellin, Colombia for 6 months now and i'm still having problems separating the languages. However, while learning Spanish, I make sure to practice Portuguese with a tutor once a week here in Colombia. Its a real mental strain to switch between the two languages, but constant practice is making this easier. I don't have any real problems remembering what words belong to what language. It's just a case of Portuguese words slipping into Spanish conversations. I recognize the error, acknowledge it and move on. Practice with both languages at the same time is a must. Its getting easier and easier, the fact that its hard to do, I see as a good thing...i'm learning. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4652 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 7 of 7 06 January 2016 at 1:31pm | IP Logged | ||
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Basically, you need good Pt-Sp dictionaries like this one:
http://tinyurl.com/dicbrptsp It is a small dictionary to learn from (and not exactly a reference dictionary to look up words from), with a strong focus on differences and false friends between Spanish and Portuguese. Edited by Medulin on 06 January 2016 at 1:35pm 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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