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| Merv Bilingual Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5322 days ago 414 posts - 749 votes  Speaks: English*, Serbo-Croatian* Studies: Spanish, French | Message 65 of 96 19 January 2012 at 9:29am | IP Logged | |||||
It is stronger than English but weaker than Russian, Polish, German, etc. I notice no difference in pronunciation based on the surrounding sounds. The "h" in hrana, uhvatiti, uho, hleba, hiljada, hartija, vazduh, bdah, pleh, etc. is all the same sound. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Delodephius Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 5452 days ago 342 posts - 501 votes Speaks: Slovak*, Serbo-Croatian*, EnglishC1, Czech Studies: Russian, Japanese | Message 66 of 96 19 January 2012 at 3:53pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I lived in Serbia my entire life. Technically I was born in Socialist Yugoslavia, but
when I was 4 the country fell apart. Living next to Serbs all my life, but not being a Serb, and not speaking Serbian every day, just with friends, relatives, classmates, co- workers and other acquaintances, I still speak the language almost perfectly, I can express myself better than most natives even and it's hard for most people to tell that I'm not a native. But not being a Serb gave me a unique observational position. I know the language of the Serbs, and the Croats, Bosnians and Montenegrin, but I have no close feelings attached to this language, yet I share the same history, the same experience these people went through with their language in the last 20 years. And being quite an anti- nationalist and against ethnic or in this case linguistic pride, my opinion on the matter may seem very brutal and un-emphatic to most people. From my knowledge and experience I can tell you that the difference between Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin are trivial and largely unimportant. They are just or even less as noticeable as are difference between different varieties of English. The difference is that in their own arrogance, pride and stupidity these countrymen of mine have created an abomination they refer to by different names. IT'S THE SAME LANGUAGE! And after years and years I grew tired of listening to their squabbles and pig-ignorant arguments. So I just refer to the language as New Illyrian, given the fact that it was called Illyrian for thousands of years, stemming from an erroneous belief that it was the descendants of Ancient Illyrian, but if calling it Illyrian is incorrect then we should start calling French as Gallo-Romance, or something like that. The name Illyrian was abandoned in mid-19th century due to poor familiarity amongst the illiterate masses. Well, these illiterate masses have no right of protest. Maybe a bit elitist of me, but who ever asks an ignorant person for any kind of advice on any matter in real life anyway?! They did what they were told back then and now when they are "free" they think it was their opinion all along! 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5430 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 67 of 96 19 January 2012 at 4:01pm | IP Logged | |||||
I'm afraid this leaves more confused than before -- I can only think of 3 possible sounds: Russian x, English h or German/Scottish ch. I was referring to the type of sound it is, not how strong or weak it is, which is rather meaningless. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5105 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes
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